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    so... what sort of setup do you use... (vintage spec instruments only) ?

    i have a 60's relic... a great guitar by the way... and i set it up exactly to the fender setup specs and it plays great (4/64 at 17th fret 1st string to 5/64 on the low end... with a .012 gap at the 8th fret first string when string depressed at both ends).

    yet... i still hear of people referring to low action (i'm only talking about vintage style 7.25 radius... i KNOW you can get lower action on the 9.5 radius).

    so, i was just wondering how everyone else sets up their guitars. do you just go by feel?... or do you guys have a specific setup? do most of you just use the standard fender specs?
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    I tend to set mine up a tad higher than specs... FWIW.
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    I tend to set mine a little below factory specs. I think I'm running a .009 or .008 gap at the 7th on the A string. This is on a 60RI as well. I don't get a lot of buzzing and I dont really ever fret out, but then again I tend to play very lightly.

    This is odd because I just setup my guitar until it was perfect for me and then recorded all of the measurments last night. I have them at home and I'll post them all later tonight if anyone is interested.
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    I always set my neck relief at .012 also that seems perfect.

    I set my string height by lowering the saddles all the way down so the strings touch the frets then raise them up 1 turn at a time till they dont buzz. Then I do some fine adjustments and its all set. You can also use a 7.25 radius gauge to set the bridge properly. I usually end up with around 5-6/64 on the big E and 3-4/64 on the small e. I like to hit the big strings hard to give them a little extra room.

    I've had several Strats with 7.25 radius that didnt fret out at all its all in the fret height being equal and a good setup.

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    Marcondo,
    Did you do the Dan E thing and make the inverse 7.25 radius gauge like I did? I traced one out and cut it into a crescent shape so that it fits underneath the strings by the bridge. This gives a little bit more accurate way of setting the bridge radius. It's a neat trick I got out of his Guitar Player Repair Guide book. I just basically set the two E's and then adjust the others to fit the radius. Works like a charm!
    Last edited by ShawnRT; 08-09-2002 at 01:44 PM.

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    I set mine up by feel, I love high action.

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    Hi Shawn yes I made a radius gauge did it okie style made a 7.25 and a 9.5 and 12 out of thick cardboard. Used them a few times but decided to just use the neck itself as my reference point saves a little time.

    Strats do seem to play a little better if the D-G strings are set the highest and the rest stairstepped down as compared to a completly flat setup.

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    I set my neck pretty flat, and adjust the high E string so I can do big assed bends without choking, and adjust the others accordingly. That means fairly stout action on a 7.25" radius. I usually run my lower strings with higher action on all my guitars anyways.

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    Strictly feel, measurements mean nothing to me. I have some of my guitars set for very, very low action, zero relief and 2/64" @12th fret both sides and other as high as 5/64". depends on the guitar and what style playing I plan on using it for.

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    wow!...

    it's pretty cool to see that i'm pretty much in the same ball park with everyone else.

    some are a little lower than standard and some a little higher (black bear... stevie ray liked his a little higher too... so you're in good company)... but we all seem to be generally in the same ball park.
    -jr-

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    Well here are the measurements I took after I set my strat up just like I wanted it:

    Neck Relief: .009" at 7th Fret
    String Height: Just under 4/64" @ 17th Fret
    Pickup Heights:
    Bass: 3/32"
    Treble: 2/32"
    Nut height: .020"


    That's about how I like it :tw59

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    Originally posted by Marcondo
    I always set my neck relief at .012 also that seems perfect.

    I set my string height by lowering the saddles all the way down so the strings touch the frets then raise them up 1 turn at a time till they dont buzz. Then I do some fine adjustments and its all set. You can also use a 7.25 radius gauge to set the bridge properly. I usually end up with around 5-6/64 on the big E and 3-4/64 on the small e. I like to hit the big strings hard to give them a little extra room.

    I've had several Strats with 7.25 radius that didnt fret out at all its all in the fret height being equal and a good setup.
    That's pretty much how mt Fenders are set up..just high enough to cease the buzzing but I still fret out high up the neck, but I doesn't worry me (I hardly play past the 14th fret on my Fenders anyway)

    BTW I apologize for the Tele avatar in a Strat room....I dont have any pics of my Strat scanned yet.....I'll get there.
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    I like my '57 RIs action set low, but high enough so there's no buzz. No idea what the measurements are, I go by feel as well.
    As the '57 has a 7.25 radius, it will fret out on bends at the 15th fret or higher. For that reason, when I order my CS '56, I'm intending on getting it with a flatter radius (likely 9.5) and med/jumbo frets.

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    Gave up on the measurements

    I set mine up mostly by feel. My only requirement: The high E can't fret out on any point on the neck when I bend it. I don't care about buzzes as long as they can't be heard through an amp. My low E is also usually higher than normal for a 7 1/2 " radius.

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