Peavey Wolfgang Opinions?

[zyx345]

I know this is a Fender Forum but if anyone has knowledge on this:

Can any owners of the Peavey Wolfgang comment on how it compares to the EB MusicMan Axis?

Also is the USA model far superior to the import?

[Motojunkie]

I have an import. I'm not going to try to compare it to the others, as I'm not prepared to do that.

I will say that the import is pretty nice. I got mine for $400 used - still has the plastic protective stuff on it. It needed a set up, but after that this thing kicks ass. The pick-ups are serviceable, but not great. I'm looking at putting in Seymour Duncan EVH's in it - be aware that this isn't a drop in replacement. Pretty solid axe for the money.

[BLUELOU]

ORIGINALLY ASIDE FROM LIL VISUAL CHAJNGES THE ORIGS ERNIEBALLS WERE VERY CLOSE TO THE PEAVY WOLFGANGS

REASON EDDIE WENT WITH PEAVY WAS ACCORDIN TO LEGEND HE GOT SICK OF PEOPLE WAITIN ON ORDERED ERNIEBASLL EVH MODELS
PEAVY COULD MASS PRODUCE SAME QUALITY AT A MORE AFFORDABLE CONSUMER PLAYER RATE FINANCIALLY THAN ERNIE BALL WHICH IS FACT


THESE GUITARS IMPORTED OR THE USA MODELS ARE ALL GOOD SAME SHIT AS A MATTER A FACT THE PEAVYS HAVE THE NICE DROP D LEVER ON THE FLOYD ROSE TREM EDDIE DEVELOPED
UNLIKE THE ERNIE AXIS MODELS
ERNIEBALL GUITARS ARE TOP NOTCH NO SHIT BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE CONSISTINCY OF THE PEAVY QUILT TOP ROUND TOP FULLY DECKED GUITAR AT $900 -$1200 YOU WOULD HAVE TO REALLY HUNT DOWN A VERY OLD ERNIEBALL EVH MODEL THEYRE OUT THERE BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE WOLFGANGS
AND WHEN EDDIE DROPPED ERNIEBALL THEIR NECK PROFILES CHANGED A LITTLE BECAUSE OF LAWSUIT PROBLEMS BEIN EDDIE HAD HIS OWN NECK DESIGHN CONTOUR HE LIKED.....



HE DID THE TRANSITION IN ALL HONESTY BECAUSE SOMER KIDS WERE WAITIN TOO TOO LONG FOR ERNIEBALL TO HAND MAKE A GUTAR THA WAS TOO OVER PRICED OUT OF MOST GUITARISTS FINANCIAL REACHES
PEAVY WAS WAY MORE INTERESTED IN HIM BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD HIM AND HIS 5150 AMPS BEIN MADE FOR YRS BEFORE THE WOLFGANG CAME OUT

SO 2+/2 =4

I LIKN/E THE WOLFGANGS BUT I THINK ID RATHER STIK TO MY STRATOCASTERS
EVH HIS GUITAR IS MADE FOR HIM IMOP I LIKE MY GUITAR I DONT LIKE OTHER ENDORSED GUITARS I AINT GONNA PLAY BETTER ON IT
MATTER A FACT THE WOLFGANGS AND AXIS GUITARS ARE NO WHERE AS VERSATILE OR TONAL AS ANY OF MY OLD STRATOCASTERS
IT REMINDS ME OF A SOUPED UP TELE EVEN THE WOORN IN LOOKIN NECK FEELS LIKE A TELE TO ME I DONT LIKE FLOYD ROSES GREAT TREMOLO INVENTION ON THERE ANYWAYS

THE IMPORTS ARE REAL NICE SO 50-100$ ON PICKUPS AND BAM YOURE IN BUSINESS

ME I GET MINE WOUND MY SOUND NOT -SOMEONE ELSES TONE
IM A FENDER TRUE STRAT PLAYER
I'LL STIK TO WHA PAYS MY BILLS$$$$$$
PLUS THE VERSATILITY TONALLY ON ANY OF MY HEAVILY MODDED STRATS IS MORE TONAL THAN A AXIS I COULD DO ANYTHING A AXIS COULD DO WITH MY OL TRUSTY BEATER REAL 62 STRATOCASTER AND ITS FLOATIN TREMOLO LMAO .....ITS RELIABLE

WHAS ONE VOLUME KNOB GONNA DO FOR ME I LIKE TONE CONTROL SOME AXIS MODELS HAVE IT AS A ADD ON BUT THA WAS WAY LATER AFTER EDDIE LEFT ERNIEBALL THE AXIS NECKS ARE DIFFERENT A LITTLE WIDER THAN EDDIES ORIGINAL MODELS HE ENDORSED ORIGINALLY
THA ERNIEBALL ENDORSMENT DIDNT LAST LONG DID IT
ATLEAST HIM AND HIS PEAVY'S ALL MATCH .....


NO SHIT



GODBLESS
BLUELOU


KEEP ROCKIN

[zyx345]

Thanks for the great info. If anyone is interested here is a great site w. Wolfgang info:

http://www.wolfgangguitars.com/index.htm

['56Freddy]

I've got 2 USA Specials and have to say that the necks are absolutely awesome.The USA pickups are great as well.They are my main gigging guitars for my hard rock project.

[Trem-O-Loaded]

The man who posts with the caps lock on is balls on correct about those guitars.I agree 100% with him.

[BLUELOU]

IM THE CAPS GUY LMAO
THANKX FOR THE COMPLIMENT

REASON I LOVE EVH STUFF IS I AM IN THA STUFF
I KNO ALOT ABOUT HIS GUITARS BECAUSE BACK IN THE LATE 70'S MID 80'S I USED TO BUY MY GUITAR PARTS FROM HIS SAME DISTRIBUTOR AS BACK THEN ED BUILT PAINTED HIS OWN CREATIONS......I MADE MANY THINGOCASTERS MJYSELF BECAUSE I DIDNT LIKE SCREWIN MY 62 STRAT UP

AS FOR ME I WAS ON THE ROAD GIGIN IN THE MID 80'S I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO EDS SHIT
TILL ONEDAY IN ABOUT 90
I RAN ACROSS A FEW VERY ORIG EVH PROTO AXIS GUITARS BEFORE THEY HIT THE MARKET IN A ODD MUSIC STORE IN TAMPA THOROBRED MUSIC ELLIOT RUBENSTEIN OWNER HAD 2
I TOOK MEASURMENTS TO ME BACK THEN BELIEVE IT THE NECKS WERE A BASIC C THIN TELE NECK
WITH THE TOP 2 TUNIN PEGS CUT OFF
AS I OBSERVED THESE RARE GUITARS
AT THOROBRED MUSIC IN TAMPA ELLIOT THE OWNER LET ME LOOK AT THESE GEMS THESE WERENT FOR SALE I WAS FRIENDS WITH THE MGRS
THEN AS FOR THE BODIES WELLIMOP CUT A LIL ON A TELEUPPER BOUT SAW OFF A LIL ON THE LOWER HORN OF A TELE BAM AND YOU GOT THE AXIS REALLY NOTHIN SPECTACULAR
JUST IMOP A HYPED SUPER HOTRODDED TELECASTER WITH A SET OF HUMBUKERS AND A CUSTOM FLOYD ROSE TREMOLO

AS FOR THE FLOYDROSES AGAIN ANYONE CAN ORDER BODIES ROUTED FOR THESE TREMOLO'S AKA WARMOTH GREAT STUFF FOR THE BUCK
I AINT INTO COPYING ED I HAVE MY OWN GUITARS I USE AND BUILD OR MOD
I MAKE /ASSEMBLE /MY OWN GUITARS NO GEMS BUT I DONT CARE FOR FINISHES ANYWAY I JUST BUFF OUT MY BUTTERSCOTCH COLOR IM HAPPY
AS LONG AS ITS ALL THE SAME COLORS
I AINT INTO HAVIN DIFFERENT WOOD AND NECK AND TREMOLO GUITARS ALL MY WOODS ARE THE SAME AND SAME VINTAGE TREMOLOS AND FRONT /MIDDLE REAL 62 FENDER SINGLE COILPUPS I USE ALL SEYMOUR DUNCAN HUMBUKERS IN MINE

SO I USE A GUITAR MAKER COMPANY OUT OF OREGON FOR YRS NOW GREAT SHIT SAME STUFF ED USES ON THE SIDE MAKIN HIS CREATIONS HE STILL FUKS WITH FRANKENSTRATS YUP HE LOVES IT HE IS A ORIGINATOR OF IDEAS LIKE LESPAUL WAS
HE LIKES ASSEMBLIN HISD OWN GUITARS ITS A HOBBY HE LOVES HE HAS A ROOM OF THESE THINGS AND IDEA CONCEPT GUITARS LIKE MULTI NECKED KRAMERS ETC


I USED MITY MITE BODIES FOR AGES SO DOES ED ITS I THINK NOW SAME SHIT STRAT1970 COPIES VERY GOOD KNOCKOFFS
I BUILD UP MINE JUST TO USE FOR WORK THEN I WEAR THE NECKS OUT UNLOAD THE THING MOVE ON
I ALSO BUILD SAME GUITARS FOR CONSISTENCY
ED TOO
WEIRD BUT TRUE
I HATED UGLY KRAMER HOKEY NECKS
BAD IDEA REGARDING THE PLACEMENT OF STRINGS
I LIKE THE AXIS IDEA (EDS IDEA)
BECAUSE THE STRINGS ALIGHN TO THE NUT
PRECISELY AKA WOLF GANG NOW

SAME GUITAR VIRTUALLY


IF YOU GO BUY A REAL AXIS TODAY IT IS NOT THE EVH MODEL IT LOOKS ALOT LIKE IT BUT
HERES THE CURVE BALL
THE NECKS ON THE NOW PRODUCED MODELS ARE WIDER (LAWSUIT )PROBLEMS
TRUE ED LIKES TELE NECKS OR V NECKS STRAT V STYLE

THEM NEWER AXIS GUITARS ARE GREAT BUT IF I BOUGHT ONE I'D REPLACE THE NECK WITH A TELE V NECK SAW OFF 2 FRONT TOP TUNIN HOLES ROUND IT OVER AND RE DRILL 2 NEW HOLES FOR THE TUNIN PEGS AND BAM
YUP ED ORIGINATED THA FRANKENSTEIN IDEA BF ERNIEBALL DID HE WAS ALWAYS FOOLIN WITH SHIT IN HIS HOUSE HE IS A MAD SCIEENTIST STILL
LIKE HIS IDEA THE SOLID PUP MOUNT TO BODY GREAT IDEA
FOR HIM
FOR ME I MIGHT LIKE MY PUPS LOWER ITS NOT A SUPER IDEA ITS EDS GUITAR
I LIKE ORIGINALITY
SOME EVH COLECTAHOLICS ARE DIE HARDS
AS A MATTA A FACT I'D BET ALL THE PEAVY WOLF GANG BODIES NO MATTER WHA PEAVY CLAIMS ARE IMPORTED SO NOTHIN TO LOSE ABOUT THE LIL CHEAPER VERSIONS
WHY
I'LL TELL YOU
E P A PAINTIN
OK
PEAVY CAN GET THEM BODIES AND NECK BLANKS MASS PRODUCED TOP QUALITY CHEAP IN FOREIGHN LANDS KOREA ETC AND THEN JUSTY ASSEMBLE THE ADJOININ PARTSD THA GOES FOR ALL THEM WOLFGANGS ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN WRONG WITH THIS ITS JUST THA PEAVY LIKE FENDER MAKES CLAIMS
ONLY REALLY THE ENDORSEE GETS THE RERAL DEALS LIK THE STEVE MORSE MODELS THE STEVE LUKATHER MODELS
THERE HAS TO BE LITTLE DIFFERENCES

IVE SEEN PLAYED THE MOST EXPENSIVE WOLF GANGS HARD AND THE CHEAP599 MODELS ALL WITH DROP D MECHANISM FLOYD ROSE BRIDGE AND THEY ALL PLAY FANTASTIC
ITS THE PICKUPS THA ARE THE $$$ SO BIG DEAL GOOD SEYMOUR DUNCANS ARE THE TICKET NOT A ARM AND A LEG

EPA RUINED AMERICA PAINTIN GUITARS IN ALL ASPECTS ITS BAD THEY CRACKED THE WHIP
THAS WHY NOW
ABOUT ALL BODIES ARE IMPORTED FROM MEXICO
OR OVERSEAS QC IS GREAT EITHERWAY ITS CLOSER TO A FENDER THAN FENDER WAS IN FENDERS
HEYDAYS BECAUSE OLD FENDER BODIES
WERE HAND SAWN ETC NOT CONSISTENT LIKE THE CNC MACHINED ONES OF TODAY
SO I LIKE CONSISTENCY OVER AUTHENTICITY

MOST GUITAR SOLID BODIES COME
FROM ELSEWHERE THEN GET ASSEMBLED
IN USA AKA USA CUSTOM UNLESS YOU BUY
A BODY FROM TOM AT USACG OR ALL PARTS
OR WD OR TNT ETC OR WARMOTH
ALL GOOD TOP NOTCH STUFF WARMOTH/USACG BEST IN MY BOOKS BUT A LITTLE EXPENSIVE
GREAT PRODUCTS
I HAVE A FRIEND THA HAS A AXIS KNOCK OFF EXACT COPY MADE ALL OUT OF WARMOTH PARTS FOR ABOUT 1/3 THE PRICE AND IT IS NICE
BUT I LIKE ALL THE TOYS BELLLS WHISTLES A REAL STRATOCASTER PROVIDES
I LOVE 6 SCREW TREMOLO FENDERS OVER FLOYDS ANYDAY
ITS THE SETUP THA MAKES OR BREAKS A GUITAR
GIVIN GUITARS BAD RAPS
I THINK PEAVY AND ERNIEBALL ARE TOP NOTCH
BUT I AINT A EVH RIP OFF
I AM A STRAT PLAYIN OLD FOGIE
THA DIGS GUITARS
HEY EVH USES ALOT A OLD 56 57 STRATS SUNBURST
REAL OLDIE ALOT IN STUDIO CUTS
SO THAS A FACT AND HIS BELOBVED MARSHALL HEAD
ITS A ENDORSMMENT ISSUE NOW WITH PEAVY TO LOOK NICE SELLIN POINT BUT
HIS SOUND IS A MARSHALL AND HIS FINGERS
BUT HIS SOUNDS COME FROM HIS HANDS
NO MATTER WHA ED PLAYS YOU KNO ITS ED

AND THA LAST GUITAR IN THE AXIS PAGE
THE FREAKY ONE WITH GAUGES
ON IT UGLY THING I BETB IS OWNED
BY DWEIZEL ZAPPA AS HE IS A EVH CLONE
IN MY BOOKS HE IS GREAT FRIENDS WITH ED SO TRUTH IS SPOKEN


ME I EXCLUSIVELY USE FENDER AMERICAN STRATOCASTERS MY #1 IS A TRUE MODED OLD 62 I OWNED FOR ALL MY LIFE
I HAVE LOTS MORE BUT THA IS MY BABY ITS AS GOOD AS ANYTHING I EVER PLAYED PERIOD WITH AND WITHOUT THE DROP D FLOYDS
SO I JUST DETUN 1 STEP DOWN ON LOW E TO D
MY 62 REAL STRATOCASTER WAS GIVEN TO MY BY MY DAD WHEN I WAS 8
ITS MODDED IN MY WAY
I SANK A GIBSON 335 BRIDGE HUMBUKER BACK IN HER IN 76

I HAVE ALL MY MAIN STRATS MODDED WITH NEW SEYMOUR DUNCAN HUMBUKERS I ROUTE MY BODIES MY WAY I GOT MY OWN PUP SPACING DIFFERENT THEN FENDERS HUMBUKER IDEA
I BEEN DOIN THIS SHIT TO MY STRATS FOR EVER AND I ONLY USE REASTRATOCASTERS OR STRATOCASTER CLONES WITYHOUT FENDER NAME
ON IT THA I BUILD OR ASSEMBLE MY WAY
ALL SAME
CONSISTENCY WISE IF I BUST A STRING I JUST GRAB #2 THA EASY NO SOUND CHANGES
TO EACH HIS OWN

WHEN I AM DONE WITH MY STRATS IT IS MY SETUP MY WAY
I DONT LIKE TO SOUND LIKE OTHERS I GOT MY OWN INDIVIDUALITY LIKE ED DOES HIS
GEORGE LYNCJH HAS HIS OWN SOUNDS STEVE VAI HAS HIS TONESOUND ERIC JOHNSON JOE SATRIANI JOHN PETRUCCI

SRV LIKED OLDV BUZZES ON #1 THAS HIS SOUND SUPER HIGH ACTION 11'S -13'S GAUGE STRINGS
HIS PUPS WERENT ANYTHING PHENOMINAL JUST OVERWOUND FENDER 59-62 OLD PICKUPS POSSIBLY LATERDIPPED IN WAX

ALL I AM REALLY STATIN HERE IS ALL GUITARS ARE GOOD
ITS THE PLAYER THA HAS THEIR OWN SOUND I HOPE

I THINK AS WE MATURE PLAYING WISE WE ALL DEVELOP OUR OWN SOUNDS AND QUIRKS

WARMOTH SELLS KILLER EVH PARTS TO ASSEMBLE YOUR OWN EXACT WOLFGANG TRUE I KNO A FRIEND IN TOWN WITH 2 OF THESE COPY CAT GUITARS AND THEY ARE AS CLOSE TO A AXIS AS IT IS
THE EVH AXIS NOT THE NEW AXIS OF TODAY NECK IS DIFFERENT THAN OLDER ORIGINAL EVH MODELS BEFORE HE WENT TO PEAVY

MY FRIENDS WOLFGANG THING COPY ONE OF THEM
IT IS A WOLFGANG COPY REALLY VERY EXACT HE CHANGES THE HEADSTOCK TO THE PRS ONE CAUSE 3/3 BETTER TUNIN STABILITY


ITS UP TO YOU

GODBLESS
BLUELOU

[Jimi D]

Originally posted by Trem-O-Loaded
The man who posts with the caps lock on is balls on correct about those guitars.I agree 100% with him.

Well, no offense to BLUELOU, but though I agree with some of the more general things he says, he is absolutely WRONG when he says a US Standard Wolfgang is a better guitar than a MusicMan Axis... Peavey churns out as many Wolfgang's in six weeks as Ernie Ball makes Axes in a whole year, and the difference in fine finishing and attention to detail is extremely plain to see... The fit and finish are just tighter and slicker on an Axis, the neck has a more gentle 10" radius as opposed to the Peavey's 15", and is better finished and sealed (I had problems with fret ends sticking out on my Wolf that I've never had with an Axis) and the Axis pickups are not as harsh or brittle as the Wolfgang's... I know wherefrom I speak - I owned a Wolf for two years and I thought it was the $hit until I bought an Axis: now I own five Axes

THE NECKS ON THE NOW PRODUCED MODELS ARE WIDER (LAWSUIT )PROBLEMS

This is NOT TRUE - Ernie Ball holds all the original design patents for the EVH model AND THEY STILL MAKE THEM - they're called the Axis EX and are manufactured in the US but available in Japan only (because Music Man US want to distance themselves from the Van Halen relationship). While it is true that the Axis neck is 1/32" wider AT THE BODY END ONLY, because a lot of EVH players found the high E was slipping off the fretboard when they played, so Dudley Gimpel (the guitar's REAL designer - Eddie just said "ya, I like that" or "no, I don't like that", but the design is Dudley's which is why Ernie Ball hold all the design patents) widened the neck very, very slightly at the body end on the treble side but did so by adjusting the original CNC program only very slightly, so all Axis necks are still essentially made from the same model digitized from Eddie's favorite Kramer neck! The added 1/32" ad the body end only is nothing, and anyone who's played both will admit it's pretty much irrelevant, if they notice a difference at all... The other changes to the EVH model (slight contouring in the back, moving the pickup switch) were done to make the Axis a more accessible instrument in the mainstream, and to emphasize the divorce between EB/MM and EVH - Ernie Ball (the company) was NOT pleased with Mr. Van Halen when he left, and they were happy to let him go (Nuff Said). There was NEVER any lawsuit - Eddie threatened such because he was pissed that Music Man held all the patents on his signature guitar, but his own lawyers told him he didn't have a leg to stand on. Meanwhile, Peavey promised to give him more money per guitar and churn out ten times as many per year - so why did he really go to Peavey?

Anyway, the Wolf's okay, but the Axis is better imho; but don't take my word for it - get out there and play them for yourself...

Oh and I retrofitted the d-Tuna I took from my Wolf before I sold it onto my Axis in about five minutes flat - the d-Tuna's cool, but it's no reason to buy a Wolf over an Axis...