I haven't played a MIM strat, but I'd put my MIM Baja tele up against Highway One, American Series and Vintage Series instruments, and it'd probably kick most of their butts.
I haven't played a MIM strat, but I'd put my MIM Baja tele up against Highway One, American Series and Vintage Series instruments, and it'd probably kick most of their butts.
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
The sustain... listen to it.Originally Posted by CJ Neel
#5. The player makes the sound. All of this stuff is rather quiet without the player.
I don't hear anything.
Well, you would, if it were playing.
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".
-Dave Barry
Beginning to see why you got bounced from the Duncan Forum. The drunk posting really needs to stop
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Yikes!
I wasn't going to say much, but here goes...
Some valid points to be discussed.
Vintage is not always better. Saying that, the '69 Hemi Cuda will always "ring that bell", and bring on the cash war. Same with old wood.
I have to also disagree with the "they all sound the same" argument. No way. I won't bring up my "pedigree", I've not owned a lot of them, but I ran a store, and I got a lot of playing time on many vintage/non vintage guitars. Wood has individual character. Just look at the dang trees! They are not all grown the same.
Tone is indeed in the fingers. To a point.
No Fender will sound like a cranked Marshall, no matter what I stuff in front of it. No Marshall will ever get that chime of a good clean Fender. Period. There is a lot to be said for both, but they simply are not the same amp.
I'll stop here. Drunken rants are one thing. Self professed is another. I'll take it for what it is, and respond as such.
Cheers!
my cheap guitar sounds better when someone else plays it.
I am drinking mexican beer
do I look like I know what I'm doing?
My son's MIM Jimmie Vaughan Strat is a sweet piece o' axe!...and I'd stack it up against my AmSt any day of the week...
"I'm gonna find myself a girl
that can show me what laughter means
And we'll fill in the missing colors
In each other's paint-by-number dreams..."
Aw, c'mon, cut him some slack...he said right up front he was drunk. I've sometimes said things (in the real, analog world) that should have gotten my ass kicked when I was drunk, but thankfully so far I've been lucky. Glad someone gave me a break...
"I'm gonna find myself a girl
that can show me what laughter means
And we'll fill in the missing colors
In each other's paint-by-number dreams..."
I'd take a MIM cerveza over a MIA beer anytime - thanks!
Corona over a Flying Dog or Sierra Nevada? Methinks not.I'd take a MIM cerveza over a MIA beer anytime - thanks!
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
The more I read this it is a serious offense of CWI - Computing While Intoxicated. Can be fun sometimes but then you get ragged on by others. Just say 3 Jose Cuervos and I am sure Lily will forgive jerryjg and then we can still continue having some fun with this......it is all positive
Yeah, there are so many good American beers now. What I would not give for a case of Samuel Adams Boston ALE! Even with the brewski here in the old country, that taste just appeals to me - the Sierra Nevada also!
"Sorry" - John Belushi as he smashed a guitar in Animal House
Personally, I could go for a Rauchbier. Maybe not now. I could wait until after lunch.
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
Seems we have a habit of hijacking threads with the beer discussions......but with this on it actually makes sense!Personally, I could go for a Rauchbier. Maybe not now. I could wait until after lunch.
"Sorry" - John Belushi as he smashed a guitar in Animal House
Didn't it all start with beer?Seems we have a habit of hijacking threads with the beer discussions......but with this on it actually makes sense!
Maybe jerryg did a test with 12 bottles of the same brand to see if they all tasted the same?
I hope for Jerry's sake he at least got one of those "12 beers of winter" packs...variety being, as you know, the spice of life...
"I'm gonna find myself a girl
that can show me what laughter means
And we'll fill in the missing colors
In each other's paint-by-number dreams..."
Up until now i haven´t have the strength to respond in this matter, but now i´m on my first Friday Tjeck beer, soo..
I have to say that every Fender is an Individual, when i select a Guitar, whatever Brand or Model, i play several specimen before buying! And my experience is that they sound different, all of them!
The tone is of course out of your fingers, as someone said before, don´t play the git and listen carefully, yes there is nothing
Now, i have to open my second beer, it´ll be a Danish one
This is so funny!!!! Think about it: a drunk posts and rather than ignoring him, we engage him. Have we learned NOTHING from playing bars all those years?
Here is a true bar story.
Sitting with my wife between sets, I overheard a young, very pompous graduate student telling his table that he was writing a book. A drunk at the next table turned around and said "Hey, you are writing a book? What a coincidence! I'm colouring one!"
"The beauty and profundity of God is more real than any mere calculation."
But there's always this MIM Brew:
Yummmm...
"...pray do not imagine that those who make the noise are the only inhabitants of the field;
that, of course, they are many in number; or that, after all, they are other than the little,
shriveled, meagre, hopping, though loud and troublesome, insects of the hour."
-Edmund Burke
My favorite Mexican brew.
Somehow it tastes better in a bombed out building in a back alley in Tijuana. It's something like seven pesos a bottle in a place like that.
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
That's not fair! It'll be hours before I'm off work and have my first beer of the weekend!
I remember a mexican brand from 1980 that I really enjoyed: "Superior" - never came across it in later years.
I didn't get bounced. I asked to be removed casue I was spending half my life there, also, I made a stupid insensitive political remark, and I decided it probably was best to just apologise and walk away so I did, but yeah, I was drunk.This particular post was overflow probably from there, so your right about that. IDK. An aweful lot of folks think I'm dead wrong about some of this stuff, which seemed pretty plausible and stuff that would stand to reason- at the time.
I like Negra Modelo a good bit. Used to always get it when I went to this fantastic Mexican restaurant in the SF Bay area, Celia's. What I wouldn't give for their "Expresso Burrito" right now....
When I was in college in Oklahoma, I liked a Mexican beer called Simpatico that came in opaque black bottles. I haven't seen any of that in years. But I'd take a Sierra Nevada over just about anything. That's a fine product of the beerly arts.
"I haven't slept for ten days...because that would be too long." -- Mitch Hedberg
How 'bout now?
"I haven't slept for ten days...because that would be too long." -- Mitch Hedberg
My .02
I have had a 56 and 66 plus i own several new and custom shop strats. My 56 was nice, but my NOS 56 custom shop is Screamin awesome The problem with old guitars is maintaining them. Gets expensive sometimes.
I only use tube amps so no distortion pedal for me. Someone in the crowd usually comes up and asks "Where is your distortion pedal"? LOL
I think Fender has done a fine job of improving thier quality over the years.
I've hesitated to post on the matter because I'm not drunk, but I have to say that my Made In Mexico Custom Shop Strat sounds just as good as any vintage Strat I've ever played. Better, in fact.
I went to every Guitar Center here in the pacific northwest & played each one through my Blues Junior w/a Marshall Gov'nor to get that Plexi crunch. I picked this particular one because it stood out uniquely from all the others; & that's difficult because in my hands they all sounded pretty good.
Cygnus X1
Ditto. I worked in a music store for 12 years. You could open a typical box of 6 guitars and all would feel different, especially acoustics – occasionally a real beaut of a player comes through, their usually grabbed by those in the shop ( I grabbed 2I have to also disagree with the "they all sound the same" argument. No way. I won't bring up my "pedigree", I've not owned a lot of them, but I ran a store, and I got a lot of playing time on many vintage/non vintage guitars. Wood has individual character. Just look at the dang trees! They are not all grown the same.). That’s why when I heard last year that the guy who owns the local music store had his own tele for sale I sped over to hsi shop cash in hand. Tried the other Tele's but tthey weren't even in the same league regardless of price
I also don’t fall for the ‘old is good, new is bad’ – there’s good and bad in both.
Jerry can't stand you right now!
"I haven't slept for ten days...because that would be too long." -- Mitch Hedberg
I think he should have another!So... whatcha been drinkin' jerryjg?
CT.
LOL Cogs.
I have often urged people not to drink and post, but if it keeps you from drinking and driving, or drinking and playing Freebird, I guess we'll accept the posting.
I'm with Kap'n on this one--my Mexican Baja Tele smokes every other Tele I've owned, which is a lot of Teles.
I have played many guitars in one day looking for a gem and they are indeed very different from each other. The stuff that is CNC'd and otherwise done by machine is of course mostly identical, but three different guitars of the exact same make and model will certainly vary. One will have a fret that might not be seated quite right, and one may have a some very minute gaps in the way the wood is joined in a multi-piece body that does very definitely affect resonance and overall "feel."
I've only ever played one actual '55 Strat and one '54 Telecaster. The '54 Tele felt and sounded amazing. The '55 Strat was an absolute piece of crap. Whatever. It's the same argument as the previous one. No matter what year, some guitars were great, some were dogs.
#5... well... I may have covered that elsewhere.
LMFAO!!!
(or "Stairway To Heaven"!)
"When injustice becomes law then rebellion becomes duty."
NO STAIRWAY!!!!!
Then Play On
Hey, i live two blocks from the Sierra Nevada Brewery!
i spent a brief period of time in germany in the 70s...german beer is awesome!
Well - I've gotta add my two penneth... Belgian beer may very well be the redeeming feature of that entire country (no offense intended to any Belgians - but you can keep your lace and chocolate...) and the local ales around here kick the crap out of anything - anyone who's had a hand-pulled pint in the Puzzle Hall Inn would probably agree...
Drunken posts? I'd forgive anyone who at least has the decency to tell us he's had a few too many... as long as he wasn't leaning all over me and slobbering etc...
Guitars? Everyone one of 'em is different. Sure some of it is pretty bland cookie-cutter stuff but occasionally one stands out - that's the one you buy. I never go by what it sounds like in the store - if it feels right and has a decent ring to it you can always change the pups - just box up the originals if yer worried about authenticity issues...
I wouldn't go as far as to say any guitar made in X is gonna be better than one made in Y - but the grain of maple in my two USA made Fenders is probably a little bit 'better selected' than what might be offered for less money elsewhere - does it make them a better guitar by default? Hell no. But they are good examples and are a major contributing factor - ask anyone who's ever played a G&L or MM if neck wood makes a difference... but there's every chance a MIM will do the same - hell I've got an early Yamaha Pacifica neck that I've just bought a Tele body for that's killer and that was MIC... go figure!
If it rocks yer boat - turn it up and wail!
If I could find a road to get away it wouldn't be too soon....... Shipwreck Moon.......
If it rocks yer boat - turn it up and wail!
HIT IT!
"When injustice becomes law then rebellion becomes duty."
Aaaah yes. Spending time in Belgium pubs is quite nice also. I had one of my old buddies viviting from the US and he wanted good beer so we packed the car, drove a few hours and spent 2 days in Brugge sampling various beers in large quantities. The food in Belgium is also good.....what is Belgian cusine????.......French food in German portions
Now those nice local ales, hand pulled, that you have over there on that big island......all I say is get me over there and I will be writing posts like this one started out with!!!!
"Sorry" - John Belushi as he smashed a guitar in Animal House
Hmmm... I'm thinking of changing my screen name to "Im drunk and bored"
Totally bored is so 2008
Why not "Totally drunk"?
Or Smoke On The Water etc, etc,NO STAIRWAY!!!!!
My guitars generally sound better when played by someone else LOL .
But apart from that, I have a late 80's MIJ standard Strat (Poly lacquer /maple neck with skunk stripe) with ceramic p/ups. and also a USA artist series Mark Knopfler sig Strat with alnico 5 texas specials (nitro lacquer /rosewood board). The MK sig is without doubt beautifully finished and the alnico magnets are nearer to a vintage tone than the ceramic ones, but I'm not prepared to say it sounds "better" without qualification. there are some tunes that I play that suit the MIJ ceramic p/ups better and so I wouldn't be without either guitar.
When You point your finger 'cause your plan fell through, you've got 3 more fingers pointing back at you.
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