What chords are these?

[Cogs]

I substitute these chords in place of the II & V chords. In the key of D, for instance:
E------------------------
B---3---SLIDE TO--2---
G---4---SLIDE TO--3--
D---5----------------5--
A------------------------
E---5----------------5--

What are their names?

[sliding-tom]

First one might be called a G6sus2, second one sounds weird to me, are you sure that's the fingering?

[Tele-Bob]

I only had time to look at the first chord.

In relation to D, it is somewhat androdginous as the chord consists of (D, root), (B,6), (G,4), (A,5) I might call it a D6sus4

In relation to the II chord, or Em, you have (D,b7), (C,b3), (B,5), (A,4). Depending on the context, you could call it Em7sus4

[Mikey]

"This One", slide to "That One"

[pc]

7, that's a fairly common jazz ii/V sub, which is basically just Em7 to A7b9, the only difference being you keep the A in the bass of the Em7.

It's a pretty hip change--I think you'd find the first person to really put that to use in recordings would be Django. Even more so, if it was the key of D-minor instead of D-major, if you use that same fingering except also use the Bb in the first chord, so that the only thing that moves is the D down to C# (on the B string), you'd have Em7b5/A to A7b9, a really juicy turnaround going to a Dm7 chord.

[mgade]

OK, where's a guitar when you need one :-)

Keep this thread floating 'till saturday ;-)

[Wilko]

Looks to me like
G add9 (1,3,5 +9)
Then Gmb5 add9 (1,b3,5 +9)

[pc]

Yes, but he said substituting for the ii/V in D, so the qualities would have to relate to that key.

[agalamba]

The first one is a A7(sus4) or G/A. The second one is A7(b9).

[Cogs]

Did I say II? Sorry, I meant ii

[JAM]

7, that's a fairly common jazz ii/V sub, which is basically just Em7 to A7b9, the only difference being you keep the A in the bass of the Em7.

It's a pretty hip change--I think you'd find the first person to really put that to use in recordings would be Django. Even more so, if it was the key of D-minor instead of D-major, if you use that same fingering except also use the Bb in the first chord, so that the only thing that moves is the D down to C# (on the B string), you'd have Em7b5/A to A7b9, a really juicy turnaround going to a Dm7 chord.

Also, to get the II, V7 sound you only have to move the D down to C#. (Keeping the B natural)

[Offshore Angler]

Ah, the ii-V change. The jazz equivalent of the pentantonic scale for blues. A classic that never goes out of style.

[sliding-tom]

Looks to me like
G add9 (1,3,5 +9)
Then Gmb5 add9 (1,b3,5 +9)

Wilko, to call a chord a 9th chord, you'd need to have a 7 in there, wrong?

[chuckocaster]

what key are we in?

A G B D

and

A G Bb (A#) Db (C#) unless the 'G' is actually an F double sharp

how do you want to spell it? :ahem

[chuckocaster]

Wilko, to call a chord a 9th chord, you'd need to have a 7 in there, wrong?

you could always call it an "add 9" and that would get away with the need to have a 7 in it.

[Wilko]

Wilko, to call a chord a 9th chord, you'd need to have a 7 in there, wrong?

I called it an add 9, then spelled it 1,3,5 and used a plus sign for the 9.

Yes, if I had called it a 9th chord, the 7th would need to be there.

[JAM]

Using a plus (+) sign usually refers to a raised or sharped note, better to just write it as add 9. For example G7+9, the 9th would be raised a half-step to A#.

[Cogs]

what key are we in?

D as in dumbass :lol

[Wilko]

I never called them 9th chords. I called them add 9, then listed the notes in parentheses.
My error was using a plus sign in the note list in parentheses, which usually denotes a sharp (augmented) note.

Other methods would be to spell the chord 1, 2, 3, 5 (being that there is no 7th)

[chuckocaster]

D as in dumbass :lol

okay, then what is the next chord? that's what will tell you how to name these chords.

[Cogs]

The next chord is
D

[pc]

Chucko, you really oughta read the whole thread first!!! :lol

We kinda already answered the question. Twice.

[JAM]

Something like this?

[pc]

Right on Jam. :yay

[JAM]

Thanks pc,

You mentioned the minor variant so I put this together:

[chuckocaster]

never mind.

[sliding-tom]

Now, tell me, if I'm wrong: if you add an E to a D chord, wouldn't that be a sus2? Since there is no 7th, how could that be a 9th? That's the way I learned
to name chords. Also a sharp 9 would be written as #9 (wrong?)

[pc]

Sharp 9 is written as #9, yes. However, it can also be written as (+9) as long as you have it in the parenthesis like that. G+9 would imply a G augmented chord with a natural 9. G7(+9) indicates a G7 chord with an added sharp 9.

In general, your nomenclature is correct. If there is no 7th degree specified, adding an E to a D chord would be a sus2, but sometimes that is confused by the designation D2. General acceptance has D2 spelled as D-E-A, and Dsus2 spelled as D-E-F#-A, but not as general as you'd hope, since I see those two done the opposite way as well.

That doesn't apply to the chords in question here though, since a 7th degree is clearly specified in addition to the 9th degree.