For instance... is there a tonal noticeable difference between the standard vintage 6 screw bridge and the modern 2-point Wilkinson-inspired one?
I see some vague references pointing out that the 2-point one sounds better, but not much info is given as to the difference in tone and why this would be.
Did anybody ever experience a slight or even drastic change in tone by switching bridges?
Big difference to me I despise the AM STDS and the 2 point tremelo.
6 hole vintage for me or I really dont even consider it as a Strat.
Hi,
get a Callaham Bridge and you will notice the difference immediately.
I equipped all of my Strats ( 79 Am Standard, 01 TX Special, 94 SRV, Diego and PartsOCaster) with them...
BIG improvment in response and sustain....
just my 2c
bluesfreak :smokin
Marcondo, I wasn't at all asking for what *you* consider to be a "real" Strat. I'm asking if you ever *HEARD* a difference between the 2 bridges.
Thanks, bluesfreak68. I'll have to check it out, although I remember a huge thread on another forum that put into question the validity of those bridges. Thanks again!
I read the entire fucked up thread and thought it was sour grapes and money speaking mostly - Callaham product is quality. Not cheap, but quality. If someone can't hear the difference, it may be their ears, not the product, that has a problem.I remember a huge thread on another forum that put into question the validity of those bridges
Sorry, IMO. (Don't want to get mangled
)
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained as stupidity"
Oh, and to really compare the two types of bridge you would have to change bridge on the same guitar, which ain't an unscrew, re-assemble job. Do many people do this?
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained as stupidity"
Yes, there is an audible difference. As to which is 'better'--that is eminently debatable. Vintage bridges are a bit brighter while the 2 pt bridges have a little more mids at the expense of trebles.
One is not 'better' than the other, IMO. Depends on what you're looking for as well as the inherent tonal characteristics of the body.
Tone is in the fingers, eh? Let's hear your Vox, Marshall and Fender fingerings then...
Hmm, Strat-Mangler asking for advice after the way he treated poor Punt? But we're a gracious bunch here at the Fender Forum.Originally Posted by Strat-Mangler
i like the sound of the vintage. it's a bit more jangly and bright. the 2-points sound kind of like the highs are choked. however, the 2-points are great on strings and they stay in tune better. the vintage bridge only needs the 2 outside screws, so unscrewing or loosening the inside screws help to lessen friction points.
Impossible question from the get-go. Each guitar is vastly different, too much to make assumtions that a single component will make an audible difference. Different feel? Perhaps, but that wasn't the question.
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Wow I answered a question wrong do I have to stay after school?
Yes, surrender that MIM strat mister man! :whip
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I don't know about the bridge mounting per se, but the saddles do have an effect.
Pressed (vintage) steel saddles to me sound more natural and sweet than the brighter harsher cast type (on My guitar!!!!). A friend uses graphite ones to reduce the treble on an overbright musicman axis.
Aparrently the black saddles make the tone darker!!!
Maybe his name(Stratmangler) speaks volumes?!? :spin
CT.
Oh, and Vintage bridge all the way baby. Way better tone.
CT.
! Grito's got the right idea! For the record, there's no right or wrong answer to my question ; just yours had nothing to do with the question. That's what I pointed out. That's all.
Yeah, I doubt many people do this, especially since the 2-point and vintage-style bridges have different hole pathways, etc... But just wondering if anybody ever migrated from one to the other and could offer their opinions on the difference in tone, whether positive or negative.
You're right to a degree, but we can always try to see patterns. For example, if one person states that the 2-point dulls the highs, that can simply be his own experience (whether it be positive or negative, that's besides the point, since tastes cannot be debated), but if a dozen people chime in stating the same thing, then one can rightfully assume that attempting the same modification on my ax will likely yield the same results.
In guitar tone, there isn't much that is officially this or that. A lot of factors can and will affect the final result, but I'm just looking for individual experiences.
Describe "better", please? :)
I find it brighter, which I prefer, and I like the sustain. I keep mine tight, 5 springs, flat to the body, and .11`s. Tone for days.
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me, too.I find it brighter, which I prefer, and I like the sustain. I keep mine tight, 5 springs, flat to the body, and .11`s. Tone for days.
CT.
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If you have or can get a copy of Erlewine's Guitar Player's Repair Guide, check out the section on the Hipshot trem-setter. He goes a bit into the differences between the vintage and 2-pt bridges. He also mentions that the 2-pt bridges can suffer from some warble (which the Hipshot will help with). I'm not sure if that's much help, but I thought it was interesting.
True, SomeTimDude. I inserted foam at the bottom of the cavity. Works great.
I use three springs, and tighten the trem spring claw until the bridge is tight against the body. No warble, no going sharp if a string breaks, and the trem is still there...
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Understood, but I'd like to be able to use the tremolo a la SRV on Lenny, for example. :)
SRV used one guitar set up floating for Lenny, and only for the one songs, as vintage style bridges don`t like to dive a lot. You`d be tunin` up constantly. and, as you`ve been made awre earlier, you lose a bit of sustain and shimmer when floating.
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