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    HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    HI GANG IM JUST WAITIN FOR A TYPE A PROCESSOR IN ABOUT 2 WEEKS BUT ANYONE HERE USIN DELTA 4X10 CARDS ?
    JUST BOUGHT ONE AND I NEVER USED DIGITAL STUFF LIKE THIS FIGURED I CAN TALK YO YOU FOLKS THA HAVE HOME STUDIOS AND RECORD HOME AS I GOT 2 ALESIS LX20II DECKS I USE LIVE
    BUT IM SIMPLE
    AND A OLD ALESIS STUDIO 32 BOARD I LOVE


    AND REEL TO REEL RECORDERS I HAVE A TASCAM 3500 BOARD I HAD HARDWIRED TO MY STUDER 24 THE BOARD I SOLD AND THE STUDER IS TOASTED IT IS WORN OUT SOLD GONZO SO I SOLD THE PACKAGE
    MANY YRS OF GOOD WORK

    SO IM LOOKIN FOR NEW TECHNOLOGY IDEAS
    ALL MY STUFF GETS HARD WIRED AND IM JUST WONDERIN
    WITH A EXTRA COMP IM BUILDIN UP NOW
    WHATS THE BEST WAY TO GO !!!
    SINCE I GOT A 30 GIG MAXTOR DIAMOND HARDDRIVE AND GREAT SOUNDCARD ITS A DELTA 4 10 I THINK
    IM NOT INTO THE COMP SIDE OF RECORDING

    THE ALESIS LX20II ADATS I USE LIVE ON GIGS THATS ALL OR AS DUMPDOWN BACK UP RECORDERS OR IDEA RECORDERS
    THESE ARE JUST NICE DIGITAL RECORDERS THAT I CAN CARRY IN THEIR LIGHT RACK TO ANY WHERE
    RIGHT NOW IM USIN THE ADATS

    WHO KNOS I NEVER RECORDED GOOD STUFF ON A COMPUTER REALLY
    I GOT ACID LOOPS SONIC FOUNDRY CAKEWALK AND VOYETRA BUT I NEVER GET THA WARMTH OF A STUDER OR MY OPEN REEL TEAC A 3340S WHICH IS REALLY JUST A QUADROPHONIC RECORDER OPEN REEL TYPE BUT I LOVE TAPE ITS A GOOD SOUND AS I CAN ACTUALLY BUSS THEM 4 TRACKS TO ANYWHERE IN ITS WARMTH THEN SPLIT THA SIGNAL ANYWHERE SO I GUESS IF I NEEDED TO I CAN STILL STICK YTO THAT OLD TEAC I AINT USED IT IN A WHILE
    I JUST GOT SPOILED WITH MY STUDER AND SHE IS GONE
    IM ON THE HUNT LMAO
    SHOOT ME IDEAS WHA YOU CATS USE OUT THERE NOWDAYS
    IM LOOKIN FOR TIPS IDEAS ETC THATS ALL
    AND THANK YOU GANG
    IM NOT A PRO ENGINEER IM A SOLO WRITER THAT GETS LOTS OF NIGHTLY MUSICAL BRAIN FARTS SO I GO IN THE ROOM FIRE UP THE MACHINES AND LAY TRACKS BUT I DID IT THE OLD WAY WITH THE OL TASCAM3500 BOARD AND THA STUDER
    SO

    NOW IM TRYIN TO LEARN NEW TECHNOLOGY

    THE SMALL SETUP IM USIN THE ALESIS RIG I GOT HERE IS REALLY GOOD SOUNDIN I USE IT ONLY AS BACKUP OR IDEA HOLDERS LMAO AS YOU KNO WHAT ITS LIKE WHEN A IDEA POPS IN YOUR HEAD AT 2 IN THE MORNIN

    BUT I WONDER IF I WILL BENEFIT FROM THE COMPUTER OR MY ALESIS
    LIKE WHICH IS BETTER ?
    DO ANY OF YOU HAVE RECORDIN COMPUTERS DEDICATED TO RECORDIN STUDIOS?

    I DONT KNO PERSONALLY
    AS MY OL ALESIS STUFF IS GOOD FOR A HOME STUDIO BUT IT IS DIGITAL AND IT SOUNDS GREAT
    WHA DO YOU ALL USE ?

    I NEED ADVICE
    THANKS A MILLION
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    OK ????
    IM THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK IN DIGITAL RECORDIN LMAO
    ALL I AM LOOKIN FOR IS NICE TIPS
    LMAO
    LETS TALK ABOUT RICHARD NIXON OR SADDAM HUSSEIN THEN
    NOT !!!!
    NO FUN PARTY POOPERS
    DOGPILE ON LOU
    I THINK ITS FUNNY
    I THOUGHT SOMEONE HERE IS INTO DIGITAL RECORDING
    IM TOTALLY ILLITERATE TO IT ON COMPUTERS MAKIN MUSIC ON A COMPUTER
    SO MUSIC TALK IS NICE
    BUT I THINK A GOOD POLITICAL POST LIKE WHICH PRESIDENT USES A FOSTEX OR ROLAND DOO DAD MACHINE FRAMUISATOR RECORDER AND A RE ELECTORIAL DECODER RING MODULATOR IN THE KEY OF Fm IS LOGIC LMAO
    I KNO SQUAT ABOUT DIG RECORDIN SO I ASK FOR TIPS HERE
    SHED SOME ADVICE
    HAVE MERCY ON ME
    BEFORTE I SING THE BLUES
    AWOOOOOO
    THE WOLFMAN IS A HOWLIN
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    Lou, first of all, 30 gigs is not enough. that's enough for your system and apps drive. I suggest a second hard drive, at least 120gb. You system will work MUCH better if you record to a different drive than the one running system and apps.

    Don't know anything about the Delta cards, so I can't help you there. Whatever you're building, since it's not a Mac, make damned sure your delta card is compatible with your chipset on the mobo. how to discern that? I have no clue, I'm a Mac guy.

    If you were going Mac, I could share a lot of stuff with you but since you're going PC, this is about all the help I cna be until you start asking recording questions instead of gear questions.

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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    Hey Lou,
    I'm a digital newbie too. I just bought a Korg D1200 workstation, and although I'm having fun with it, it's sure a steep learining curve for this old brain! They have a great forum for all of their digital recording products,

    Here's a link for you.

    Tons of good info there. Hope it helps!

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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    GUYS THANKS IM SO NEW TO IT PBRADT YOU READ MY MIND LIKE A BOOK LAST NIGHT I WAS PRICIN LARGE CAPACITY HARDDRIVES AND BUKO MEMORY AND SOME PROCESSORS

    PBRADT SUPPOSEDLY THE DELTA CARD IS MADE FOR BOTH TYPES I JUST AINT INSTALLED IT YET TILL I GET THA PROCESSOR REPLACED AMD OWES ME ONE ITS UNDER WARRANTY BUT THEY SLOW AS MOLASSES CUSTOMER SERVICE WISE

    YOURE RIGHT MAC IS KILLER MY FRIEND USES MOTU 2408 ITS KILLER

    IM SO NEW TO THIS REALM OF RECORDIN THAT I AM LOOKIN FOR POINTERS AND IDEAS
    ITS ONLY GOING TO BE A MAIN RECORDER MACHINE REALLY NO SERIOUS PROGRAMS LIKE XP OR ANYTHING SIMPLE IS BETTER AND XP IS A MEMORY HOG

    THE ONE IM USIN RIGHT NOW IS A FRANKENSTEINER I BUILT UP AND SHE SMOKES
    ITS GOT A 80 GIG HD AND ITS ONLY 3 GIGS USED
    SO I KNO IF I BUY A LARGE WESTERN DIGITAL 120 + SIZE ONE GUYS IT WILL HOLSD A GOOD SET OF RECORDING FORMATS

    JUST I AM LIKE NEW ON BURNIN RIPPIN CD'S AND SHIT LIKE THAT IM USED TO STAND ALONE UNITS
    TASCAM MAKES A KILLER 24 TRK RECORDER MACHINE THA HAS REMOVEABLE 20-40 GIG HD'S AND ALL ITS ATA100 STYLED ONES TOO

    SO I FIGURED IF THEY CAN BUILD A MACHINE THA COSTS 3 GRAND THEN FOR MUCH LESS THAN THAT BETTER AS I BUILD ALL MY OWN COMPUTERS PERSONALLY BUT I AINT INTO THE DIGITAL RECORDING
    I JUST USE COMPUTERS FOR BUSINESS ORDERING AND THE FORUM STUFF

    THATS WHY IM PECKIN YOU GANGS BRAINS I NEED ADVICE YOU ALL ARE SO KOOL THANKS
    BOTH OF YOU
    ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN MY OLD STYLE RECORDING TECHNIQUES
    SINCERELY
    BLUELOU
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    I don't know any advice to offer Lou......other than stick with it. The rewards are tremendous.
    If you leave the house, you're just asking for it.

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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    Oh, about the 3340.......ever wonder why companies went back to "analog" sound??????

    I think tape saturation is kind of like tubes.....there ain't no describing it, but when it's right, it sounds like magic!!!
    If you leave the house, you're just asking for it.

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    THANKS I LIKE IT HERRITAGE80 IM SIGHNED IN AS BLUELOU
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    LMAO YOURE 100% RIGHT THATS WHY I LOVE TAPE THE SATURATION THE WAS IT RESOPIONDS IT IS MORE PLEASENT ON MY EARS MOONPIE

    GOT TO SEE WHA I SOLD
    WISH MY STUDER DIDNT CRAP OUT
    THA THING HAD SOME SOUND
    ANALOG IT BLEW AWAY SOME REAL GOOD MIXED CD'S I HEARD FROM MAJOR ARTISTS AS IT WAS WARM
    TASCAM MASDE A MRS 24 KILLER OPEN REEL 24 TRACK DECK IT WAS KILLER TALK ABOUT SWEET SOUND
    IM TAPE SPOILED AND I CAN REALLY USE THE OLD MACHINES LIKE NO TOMORROW
    I JUST WANT TO MOVE WITH THE TIMERS THATS ALL MOONPIE BUT I KEEP MY 3340 CAUSE IT IS A GOOD DUMDOWN MACHINE REALLY SATURATES IT LIKE YOU SAID LIKE A TUBE ITS A SIMILAR PRINCIPAL
    IT COMPRESSES I ALSO KNO HOW TO PUSH MY MACHINES
    I WISH I WENT TO COMPUTER SCHOOL TO LEARN THE DIGITAL DOMAIN
    IT IS THE FUTURE AND YES EVEN MY ALESIS ADATS SOUND PHENOMINAL CAUSE THEY ARE TAPE STILL
    ITS KILLER AND WARMER AND SOUNDS SO GOOD

    IM HEADIN OFF TO MY NEPHEWS CHURCH PARTY COMMUNION
    I'LL SEE YA ALL LATER GUYS THANKS FOR THE FUN TALK MOON PBRADT AND HERRITAGE
    REALLY APPRECIATED
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    hey, Lou, I've got an old Teac A-3340 4 track deck I use as a preamp to record with


    basically I use it as a mixer/mic preamp....I run the mics into the front & take the line outs to my soundcard, which is a delta/m-audio 2496


    one of the guide arms fell off, & since it was spotwelded on by the mfr, I haven't had a chance to get it repaired. I don't know why they would spotweld it, rather than just using a screw?? PITA to fix.

    I do have about 5 boxes of 1/4" tape I plan on utilizing when I get it running again though.

    I also have a Studer B67....one of these days I'll get them both set up.


    as for the recording stuff, I agree, you really should have a 2nd hard drive dedicated to audio recording space.
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    AHHH WHA YOU THINK OF THA STUDER B67?
    AS FOR 2ND HARDDRIVES BOLERO PBRADT HERRITAGE IM GOIN TO GET THE LARGEST FASTEST ONE I CAN AFFORD AND BUKO MEMORY MY MOBO IS CAPABLE OF MANY PLUGINS SO I GOT NO PROBLEMS ADDIN CARDS OR SOFTWARE JUST I HAD A FAULTY BARTON CHIP AND IT SUCKS IM JUST TIRED OF WAITIN FOR AMD SO I THINK IM GONNA ORDER A NEW ONE FTROM TIGER DIRECT
    IM TOTALLY NEW TO THIS DIGITAL DOMAIN
    BOLERO YOU LIKE THE STUDER ?
    I DID
    I'LL GET ANOTHERONE SOMEDAY I REALLY AM INTO THEM THINGS
    BUT I GOT ENOUGH STARTED UP TO GET ROLLIN RIGHT NOW

    REASON I BOUGHT THE DELTA CARD IS I LIKE THEIR PRODUCTS MY FRIEND BRIAN USES ONE SO IF IT WAS RUNNIN ON HIS OL 500 MGHZ THING WITH A 8 GIG HD AND 256 SDD RAM I THINK MINE SHOULD FLY RUNNIN ATLEAST A BARTON 333-400+ FSB 3000 SOCKET A PROCESSOR OR THOROBRED XP2800 I LIKE THE PALOMINO ONES BUT I USED UP MY LAST CHIP SO EITHER WAY I NEED TO ORDER A NEW ONE AS AMD CUSTOMER SERVICE IMOP SUCKS

    THIS LITTLE COMP IM USIN IS A DURON 750 I UNDERCLOCK AND IT HAS BUKO DDR RAM I GIG IT BOOGIES ITS A BIOSTAR BOARD
    IT WORKS ANDI AM USIN A LIL DURON 750 ITS NOTHIN BUT IT GOES FINE AND COST ME NOTHIN TO BUILD UP AND FOR OVER2 YRS IT RUNS NONSTOP

    WHO KNOS I THINK EITHERWAY ONCE I GET THE FEW NEEDED PARTS FOR MY BIG ONE
    I CAN BUILD A SERIOUS MACHINE FOR WELL UNDER A GRAND AND HAVE FUN LEARNIN NEW RECORDIN TRENDS

    THANKS FOR THE ADVICE BOLERO
    WELL APRECIATED
    AND YEA I STILL USE THA OL 3340 TEAC
    MY STUDER SHIT ON ME TOO MANY TIMES I WORE THA BABY OUT SO I SOLD OFF MY OLD EQUIPMENT
    NOTHIN LOST ALL THE STUFF WAS SPACIIOUS I NEEDED SPACE
    BUT I LIKE STUDER PRODUCTS
    SINCERELY
    BLUELOU
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    ha....I'm still using a PII 400mhz PC with 256 meg RAM !!



    ...it does everything I need it to do ;) maybe next year I'll pick up a new one, I'm not in a hurry though.


    the studer is built like a tank, but I haven't used it much. one of these days I'll get it going & fix the Teac as well.


    I decided not to bother with accumulating a "pro studio" at my house....I have enough equip. to record demo's well enough....if any of that ever sounds promising I'll just go to a real studio.



    I hope you post some soundclips once you get set up!! I dig hearing what other people are up to, out there in internet-land.


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    THANK BOLERO YEA I WILL TRY I AM SLOW AT THINKIN THINGS OUT
    IM METHODICAL AND FINNIKY SO I STASRTED WIRIN UP THE RACKS AND ADATS BUT IM LIKE STILL JUST WAITIN TO SEE WHA MY FINANCES ARE AND I WILL ORDER THE NEW PROCESSOR AND A HD AND TRY TO GET EVERYTHIN HARD WIRED IM WAITIN ION THE WIRING TILL I GET THA COMPUTER ALL FINISHED IT WILL PROBABLY BE RUNNIN ON ATLEAST 256 DDR TILL I CAN AFFORD THE I MEG DDR RAM
    AMD IS JERKIN ME AROUND PUTTIN ME ON HOLD ON THE WARANTTED PROCESSOR SO I PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO JUST BREAK DOWN AND BUY ANOTHER ONE THEYRE NOT OUTRAGEOUS BUT ITS GONNA COST ME ABOUT $200 TO GET IT FINISHED TO AT LEAST RUN
    I AM HOLDIN OFF FOR THIS REASON BOLERO
    I CAN FINISH WIRING THE BOARD BUT IF I DO THEN I WILL STILL HAVE TO REWIRE ITY AGAIN ONCE I FINISH THE PC
    SO IM BETTER OFF WAITIN 2 WEEKS OR SO
    I MIGHT JUST HARDWIRE THE ADATS AND START SOMETHING AS I AM BORED TODAY ITS RAININ AND I AM HERE THINKIN AWAY
    LOL
    ONE THING I CANT STAND IS ME OVER THINKIN CAUSE I AINT THE BEST AT RECORDING BOARD WIRING BUT I WILL DO
    SO MANY OPTIONS FOR A HOME STUDIO IM LIKE YOU I LIKE TO MAKE DEMO'S GOOD THING ABOUT ADATS OR HD RECORDING IS YOU CAN CARRY THE PORTABLE RECORDERS TO ANY DECENT REAL RECORDING DTUDIO AND REALLY POLISH UP A ADAT RECORDING THATS THE ONLY REASON I LIKE THE ALESIS OL LXII ADATS SIMPLE DIGITAL TAPE 8 TRK RECORDERS
    I CARRY THEM ANYWHERE IN THE SMALL RACKS I HAVE FOR THEM THEY WEIGH NOTHING REALLY AND ARE GOOD SOUNDING
    IM A MAJOR OVERTHINKER SO IT TAKES ME FOREVER TO FINISH A PROJECT LIKE THIS LMAO I HATE IT I ALWAYS DO THIS
    THATS WHY WHEN I TEAR INMTO A TUBE AMP I REALLY GO BEZERK IN IT CAUSE I LIKE EVERYTHING TO BE PROPER AND THE BEST I CAN DO BUT IM SLOW AT MY PROCESS OF WORK IM A SLOWW POKE
    LOL
    I GOT ADD SO I EASILY GET SUPER EASILY DISTRACTED AND LOSE CONCENTRATION ON PROJECTS
    BUT I WANNA RECORD SOME MUSIC WITH MY FRIENDS LIVE SO I THINK I AM GOIN TO FINISH UP HARDWIRING THE ADATS TODAY LATER SO WE CAN LAY SOME JAMS DOWN I LIKE LIVE RECORDING AMBIENCE MIKING AND THE FEEL OF A LIVE RECORDING
    DONT TAKE MUCH TO HIT THE RECORD BUTTON CLICK 4 AND GO ROLL TAPE
    ALTHOUGH IM BUILDIN UP THE COMPUTER TO TOTALLY ELIMINATE THE CRAP AND JUST USE IT TO WORK
    WHO KNOS I AM TOO FUSSY IM TRYIN
    WISH CHUCKOCASTER WAS AROUND HE IS A BLAST IN THE RECORDIN STUFF
    THE BOY KNOS THE LINGO AND TECHNICAL STUFF
    FOR A HOME STUDIO BOLERO I GOT A LITTLE GOOD SETUP I REALLY SAVED SO MUCH SPACE SELLIN OFF THA HUGE 3500 CONSOLE AND STUDER THA TOASTED
    I M GLAD I GOT MORE ROOM I AM PRESSED FOR SPACE
    I MIGLT LOOK INTO RENTIN A SMALL DOUBLE WIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF BFE TO SOLELY USE AS A WORK AREA ON AMPS AND RECORDIN AND REHEARSING
    I GOT TO SEE WHA IS UP WITH THE BAND
    ITS A POSSIBILITY
    SOMEHOW I GET VERY GOOD LIVE RECORDINGS WITH THE SIMPLIST METHODS IM SO OLD FASHIONE IN TECHNOLOGICAL RECORDING IM LIKE MENTALLY STUCK IN THE 60'S FORMAT I LIKE THE TECHNIQUES THEY USED IN EARLY DAYS
    HANG A SENSHEISER A CAD AND SOME 58'S AROUND AND A NOISE GATE HERE AND THERE A HIT OF THE RECORD BUTTON AND BAM THEN ONCE YOU LAY DOWN THE LIVE RECORDIN I GO KEEP THEM SETTINGS AND USE REVERBS AND DELAYS IN THE HALL EFFECT TO MAKE MAYBE A OVERDUB OR BACK TRACK OR HARMONY BUT I LIKE THE OLD SIMPLE APPROACH
    IT SAVES TRACKS AND WITH THE EXTRA TRACKS OPEN I CAN BOUNCE /DOUBLE WARM UP THE 3RD TRACK OF A MILTI LAYERD SONG IN TO A STEREO SPECTRUM AND REALLLY MAKE IT SOUND BIG IN SIMPLE WAYS
    MAIN THING IS A GOOD SONIC MAXIMIZER AT THE END BEFORE DUMPDOWN AND A GOOD COMPRESSOR TO MAYBE SQUASH TIGHTEN UP THE DRTUMS ONLY SO THERE ISNT SO MUCH NOISE
    I NEVER COMPRESS EVERYTHING MAINLY ONLY DRUMS TO TIGHTEN /EVEN THE DRUMS AND BASS OUT
    SIMPLE IS BETTER AND FASTER
    FOR DEMO'S
    IM OLD FASHIONED BRO
    I KNO I STINK AT MY APPROACH BUT IT WORKS FOR ME

    I LIKE GOOD TIGHT SNARES AND A NICE HIGHHAT AS THEY ARE REAL SWEET WHEN ITS RECORDED GOOD CAUSE THEN ALL THE OTHER INSTRUMENTS COMPLIMENT THE VOCALS AND DRUMS
    IMOP
    WITHOUT GOOD DRUMS A SONG BLOWS
    THAS WHA I LIKED SO MUCH ABOUT LED ZEPPLIN WAS BONHAM HAD THIS ENORMOUS DRUM SOUND AND ALOT OF IT WAS WEIRD DRUM TECHNIQUES RECORDIN TRICKS I AM FAMILIAR WITH
    I LEARNED ALOT ABOUT LIVE AMBIENCE MILKING DRUMS AND BANDS FROM MY BUDDY JOE
    HE IS A KILLER RECORDING ENGINEER AND HAS ONE OF THE BEST TIGHTEST RECORDING STUDIOS AROUND HE SHOWED ME WAYS TO MAKE A TINY SETY OF DRUMS SOUND HUGE AND IT MAKES ALL THE WORLD OF DIFFERENCE

    SO I USED TO LAY DOWN LIVE RECORDINGS AND DRUMS SEPERATE ON MAYBE TRK 5 THEN IU STILLL HAD 3 TO GO AND ID TAKE MY ADATS TO HIS STUDIO AND REALLY TWEAK IT UP
    I LIKE DRUMS AND BASS SEPERATE TOTALLY ON TRACKS MY GUITAR I CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE OR LESS IN THE LATER TIME BUT WITHOUT DRUMS /BASS SEPERATED ON TRACKS ITS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A FULL SOUND FROM A SMALL 3 PIECE BAND BUT WE ARE SMALL AND MIGHTY

    ITS SUPER OLD SCHOOLED
    BUT I LIKE MY OLD WAYS
    TOO BAD I AINT INTO THE COMPUTER ASPECT OF THIS SPECTRUM
    I''LL LEARN IT
    I FOUND OUT THA IF I LISTEN TO SHIT OVER AND OVER AT HERE HOME I GET MONITOR EARS ITS NOT GOOD SO I RATHER HAVE JOE 2ND MASTER IT
    I CANT STAND LISTENIN TO REPEATS

    THAS WHY I LOVE ADATS
    JUST CARRY IT AWAY AND LET SOMEONE ELSE NIT PICK OR ELSE I AM TOO FUSSY
    PLUS WHA MAY SOUND GOOD TO ME MAY NOT SOUND GOOD TO SOME SO A 2ND 3RD HELPIN HAND IS BETTER
    I CALL IT MONITOR EARS
    I HAVE BASSY WARM EARS PLUS I DO NOT LIKE LOUD VOLUMES AND IN A GOOD REAL STUDIO CONTROL ROOM ITS KILLER WHEN MASTERED
    FROM JOE OR JIM FOX HE IS UNREAL THEY BOTH USUALLY FUINALIZE IT CAUSE I AM NOT INTO MAJOR OVERDUBBIN I LIKE MY MUSIC TO SOUND LIKE I AM LIVE AND THE WAY I PLAY LIVE
    SO ITS NOT COLORED THATS WHY I RECORD SIMPLE AND VERY FLAT EQ
    NO COLORATION OR ELSE ANY RECORDING WILL SOUND MAJORLY DIFFERENT THAN THE BAND DOES LIVE

    JOE AND JIM KNO WHAT I STRIVE FOR AND I USUALLY AM VERY PLEASED
    MY FATHER IS VERY OLD FASHIONED HE IS THE BEST CRITIQUE FOR ME AT HERE RECORDIN AT HOME
    I CAN LEAVE HIM WITH THE BOARD AND WALK AWAY A COUPLE HRS AND THEN WHEN I COME BACK ITS NICE TO HEAR HIS TRICKS AS HE LIKES THA LIVE FEEL ATMOSPHERE
    BECAUSE IN THE 50'S HE HAD MINIMAL RECORDING TECHNIQUES SO IF THEY HAD ECHO MACHINES THA WERE PRIMATIVE AND A BUIG REVERB BOX IN ANORTHER ROOM THEY WOULD JUST GO IN LAY 2-4 TRACKS LIVE AND IT WAS KILLER
    SO I LET MY DAD DO HIS MAJIC I JUST LIKE TO PLAY THE GUITAR ONLY REASON I RECORD AT HOME BRO IS CAUSE I GET MANY IDEAS FLOWIN THRU MY MIND AT NIGHT LATE AND I FIND IT GOOD TO UNWIND
    LAYING DOWN THESE MUSICAL NOTIONS TO TAPE


    SORRY I TALKED UP A STORM BOLERO
    I LOVE TALKIN MUSIC GUITARS
    AND RECORDING
    THANKS BRO
    WHEN YOU GET YOUR STUFF FIRED UP POST SOME IDEAS TELL ME HOW POST SOUND CLIPS I'LL TRY TO ROLL SOME OLD TAPE AND PUSH IT HERE ITS FUN I NEVER DID IT TO A COMPUTER ONLINE
    IT WOULD BE FUN
    THANKS
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    A few digital recording tips:

    Avoid going into the red like the plague! Digital clipping is nasty sounding and will doom your mixes before you ever get astarted. Remember that doobling up on a track will double the sound of the combination, so be careful when doing that.

    Software plug-ins range from crappy to great. Waves, Bombfactory and T-Racks are my favorite. If you need a second rhythm guitar in a hurry, and you have the Amp[lutibe plug-ins (amp emulation, much like Line-6 Amp Farm) will get it done but it's better if it's not the MAIN rhythm guitar, unless you really know what your're doing with the plug-in. (I don't)

    Amplitube is GREAT for recording DI Bass. The factory settings for bass are good starting points. I'll post some more as they come to me (workin from home today, got this week nad next, then I'm done)

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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    Lou,

    I have 80 gigs, a 1.8GB processor, an IWILL K266 motherboard, a Matrox G450 dual head monitor board, Yamaha DSP 2416, Yamaha SW1000G sound card, and a Yamaha AX-16 card to use with the DSP 2416.

    I bought these cards from a guy who already had a digital studio. I have not yet used them to their capacity... still learning.

    Mostly I use Cool Edit Pro and just the SW1000G card ... WHEN I actually sit down to try to record. I have Cakewalk Sonar but don't use it. Cool Edit Pro is pretty good.

    I am very tempted to consider an TEAC 80-8 complete with DBX for each channel on a rolling console....for .... guess what??? $700.00!!!! if only I had the $$$.

    My 2 cents.
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    hey, Lou, please post some clips once you get your setup working....your drum miking tricks sound mighty interesting!!




    the only thing I don't like about the PC is it shakes like hell when I have the amps cranked; it's not good for it or the hard drives. but I don't have the space to put them in another room.


    I am looking at getting a minidisc or jamstation setup though, for loud/live recording.


    ....I'll definitely put up some clips, once I record something I like ;)


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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    BOLERO
    THANKS FOR THE PC ADVICE NOW I KNO TO KEEP THE PC SOMEWHERE IT HERE IN MY BEDROOM IN FRONT OF MY CLOSED IN GARAGE WORKSHOP SO I WILL PROBABLY FIGURE OUT SOMEWHERE NOT SO CLOSE TO ANY VIBRATIONS TO DO THAT THANK YOU A MILLION


    THANKS FOR THAT SUPER HELPFUL TIP

    PBRADT I AM OLD SCHOOLED
    I DONT CLAIM ANY KNOWLEDGEABLE KNOWLEDGE ALL I KNO IS WHA I LEARNED HANDS ON AND I WISH I HAD MORE TRAININ ONLY TRAININ I HAD WAS 10 YRS BACK AT A RECORDIN ENGINEER SCHOOL IN ORLANDO
    IT WAS DIFFERENT BACK THEN TOTALLY RECORDIN WISE AND FOR ME

    I DONT STAY UNDER THE LINE I GO RIGHT TO IT THE NOMINAL O SO ITS A HOT SIGNAL IF I HEAR DISTORTION I SCRATCH THA TRK AND PULL DOWN THE FADER CAUSE I DO NOT DIG MASSIVE OVER EQ ING

    ALSO I USE A GOOD STEREO COMPRESSOR I CAN ADD TO ANY CHANNEL ANYWHERE ANY TRACK IT LEVELS EVERYTHING OUT SMOOTH AND KEEPS THE THD NILL ITS KOOL SIMPLE

    MY TECHNIQUES ARE OLD FASHIONED BUT EFFECTIVE PLUS I DO WITH WHA I GOT
    I WISH I WAS ABLE TO PLAY A SOUND CLIP OF A 15 YR OLD RECORDIN ORIGINAL BACK THEN ITS ON REEL TO REEL I GOT TO DUMP IT TO A CD SOON
    AND BACK THEN I HAD2 TAPCO BOARDS BUSSED TOGETHER AND A FEW REEL TO REELS AND ALL I DID WAS BOUNCE TRACKS AND KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS I CAN
    I MAY ONLY RE BOUNCE A PART TO ADD FULLNESS IF ITS A ORIGINAL I DONT LIKE COLORING REAL TONES FROM THE INSTRUMENTS
    AMP FARM IS GREAT I GOT SONIC FOUNDRY IAND CAKE WALK I AINT USED

    IT IN 1 YR OR SO SINCE I SOLD MY STUDER OFF AND THA 3500 BOARD

    I ONLY DABBLED WITH COMPUTER RECORDIN ON A VERY BASIC SUPER BASIC PREMISIS FOUNDATION
    AND BACK I USED A SMALL 600 MGHZ HOMEMADE COMP WITH A INTEL 470 BOARD A OVER CLOCKED CYRIX AND 256 SD RAM AND A SOUNDBLASTER LIVE CARD
    IT WAS FUN
    BUT I LIKE THE REAL PUSH BUTTON FEELIN FROM MY MACHINES

    THE STUDER WAS PHENOMINAL THAS A UNDERSTATEMENT TAPE IS WARMER IT COMPRESSES IN A WAY I CANT EXPLAIN
    DIGITAL IS GREAT AND HAS LEAPED YARDS IN LAST FEW YRS

    AND NEVER EVER WILLL I LAY DOWN ANY TRACK I OR MY BAND CANT PLAY LIVE I LIKE IT TO SOUND REAL AS IT IS ON TAPE OR MASTER CD

    SOMETIMES I WILL RE RECORD A VERY OLD SONG I AM PONDERIN AWAY IN MANY INCARNATIONS AND NEVER HAVE I TOPPED MY 1989 RECORDING AT MY HOME STUDIO WITH MY POP DOIN HIS MAJIC HE HAS GREAT EARS
    AND LIVE I CAN PLAY IT JUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN I DID IN 89 ON THA CUT AS I AGED IN A GOOD WAY IM SO MUCH MORE PROFICIENTY AND TECHNICAL THE OLDER I GET THE BETTER FOR ME

    ITS A CLASSICAL KINDA EARLY 80'S HAIR ROCK SONG MEETS BACH ITS NICE ITS OLD AND FUN
    BACK WHEN I RECOIRDED IT ORIGINALLY ALL I HAD WAS A TEAC A 3440 AND A AKAI REEL TO REEL AND A GOOOD TEAC MASTER DECK AND COMPRESSORS
    WHEN I STARTED BACK THEN IN THIS HOUSE
    I HAD NOTHIN BUT I MADE SURE WHA GUITAR SOUND I GET LIVE IN GIGS I GOT ON TAPE
    I AM THA FINNIKY I GOT A LINE 6 ITS OK FOR LAYIN DOWN TRACKS ON THE SPOT NO SETUPS GREAT
    BUT I LIKE OLD FASHIONED MIKE TECHNIQUES BETTER ITS MORE LIVE TO MY EARS I LIKE LIVE SOUND
    AND NOTHIN BEATS A MIKED AMP LIVE THEN I SLAVE OUT A LINE OUT SIGNAL OFF IT AND THA GOES TO TRK 2 SO I GET BEST OF BOTH WORLDS PLUS I LEAVE THE EQ AS FLAT AS I CAN
    I DO NOT LIKE FAKE COLORATION
    IF I CANT PLAY IT LIVE THE SAME AND SAME FEEDBACK OR OVERTONES OR SOUND
    I AINT RECORDIN IT
    CAUSE SOME ON THE SPOT MONUMENTAL SOLOS OR EXERPTS CAN NEVER BE TOPPED SO MY SIMPLE I AINT TOPPED MY 89 RECORDIN AND MY DADS EARS WERE SO ACCURATE ITS AMAZIN I LOVE AND STILL USE AKG 240 M HEAD PHIONES FROM MY RADIO STATION DAYS
    MY APPROACH WORKS FOR ME
    I WISH I KNEW HOW TO MAKE SOUND CLIPS ON COMPUTER TO INTERNET
    IM A DUMBASS ON A COMPUTER

    EVEN NOW TODAY THE WAY HAVE MY COMPRESSOR WIRED I CAN SEND IT TO ANY CHANNEL ANYWHERE ANYTIME ON RECORD OR PLAYBACK I USE IT FOR BASS AND DRUMS LIVE TO EVEN OUT THE MIX ITS SUBTLE SET NOT HARD ITS SOFT KNEEE SET THAS A TERM I AINT USED IN AGES I ALMOST FORGOT IT
    LMAO

    MAIN THING IS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE EQUIPTMENT YOU USE

    I JUST BOUGHT A DELTA CARD ITS NICE I FORGET THE MODEL ITS STILL IN THE BOX AND PACKAGE BUT ITS A GOOD ONE AND ALL I AM USIN IT FOR IS BUSSIN TRACKS TO JUST TO BE ABLE TO BURN THE CDS OFF MY COMP AND SAVE IT TO DISK PLUS MY MAIN BOARD IS ALWAYS GONNA BE SAME SIGNAL AS CLOSE AS I CAN GET TO THE COMP I GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT

    TODAY I WIRED MY ASS OFF IN THEHOME STUDIO
    IM SHAGGIN DOWN A FEW DRUMMERS THA ARE GREAT AS THEY KN0 THE 14 ORIG SONGS I WANNA LAY DOWN
    I GOT ABOUT 14 DONE ON REEL TO REEL BUT I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN TOTALLY TOP THE REEL TO REEL MASTERS IN THE NEW ADATS IM THINKIN OF WORKIN WITH '
    IF NOT I AM GOIN TO JUST BUSS THEM REEL TO REEL TRACKS TO THE MIX BOARD AND RECORD IT ALL ON ADATS SO I GOT BACKUPS


    THA STUDER SPOILED ME ROTTEN AND MY TEAC A3340 HAS BEEN A STAPLE OF MY MASTERING FOR A LONG TIME
    LIKE BOLERO SAID ITS PREAMP IS KILLER AND IT DOES THE JOB AS OLD AS IT IS IT RUNS LIKE A CLOCK
    ALL I CAN SAY IN MY BOOKS IS IF ITS SOMETHIN I CANT PLAY LIVE

    THEN I AINT ATTEMPTING TO PLAY SONG THE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE TECHNIQUE LMAO
    GUYS THANKS
    THIS IS GOOD TALK
    IM SURE ALL OUR MINDS ARE OPENIN UP RIGHT NOW
    THINKIN OF SONGS TO RECORD OR A RECORDIN TECHNIQUE
    OR IDEA
    ITS ALL EDUCATIONAL AND GOOD FUN

    PLUS I WILL ADMIT I PLAY OFF THE FLY AND DO NOT PUNCH IN /OUT LEADS
    WEIRD AS THA SOUNDS BACK WHEN I GOT INTO OLD MULTI TRACKING I NEVER HAD THE GOOD ACCURACY OF PUNCH IN AND OUTS
    THEN AS I GOT MY STUDER I WAS ABLE TO BUT I DIDNT
    THE ADATS ARE CAPABLE OF IT
    I NEVER DO IT
    IM TOO PICKY IF I CANT PLAY THE PART I WRITE OR HEAR IN MY HEAD LIVE THEN ITS NOT WORTH ME WASTIN TAPE
    I SEEN SO MANY BAND DEMOS OVERDUBBED OVER PLAYED FROM LITTLE BANDS THEN SEE THEM LIVE ITS A SMALLER SOUND THAN THEIR CD'S

    SIMPLE IS BETTER

    SORRY I BLABBED MY FINGERS OFF
    I TYPE LIKE SHIT BUT IF I WAS TO TALK IN PERSON SOME IDEAS ARE EASIER TO EXPLAIN

    THANKS GUYS ITS GREAT TALK
    I HOPE YOU DIDNT MIND
    SINCERELY
    BLUELOU
    GODBLESS

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    KNO THE FINANCIAL FEELING MOE HEY I HOPE YOU CAN GET THA RECORDIN MACHINE
    BOLERO HOW YOU LIKE THEM MINIDISC RECORDERS I HAVEA FRIEND GENE THAS A KILLERT BLUE FREAK ON GUITAR AND HE USED SMALL 8 TRK BOSS DIGITAL RECORDER THING IN 94-95
    ITS CALLED SARRASOTA SLIM LIVE IN 95 ALL RECORDED LIVE ON A LITTLE BOSS MACHINE
    HE WOULD ACTUALLY RECORD EVERY SONG FROM A GIG HERE SAVE IT THEN NEXT GIG THERE SAVE IT AND SO FORTH ITS A KILLER CD ITS LIVE AS IT GETS
    AND IT WAS ALL DIGITAL AND LIVE RECORDED
    I DONT KNO HOW GENE RECORDED IT ON THE BOSS MACHINE BUT HE DID
    HE USED TO BRING THIS THING MACHINE TO ALL GIGS AND RECORD A SONG HERE AND THERE
    ITS A GOOD LIVE BLUES CD
    ALL THEM OLD RECORDIN TECHNIQUES I USE
    WE USE SIMILAR IDEAS ITS RAW BALLS TO THE WALL AND ITS HIS REAL SOUND

    I GOT TO BURN OFF 3 CDS FOR YOU DUDES TO SEE WHAA IM AM INTO

    ONLY DIGITAL DIFFERENCE BACK THEN BETWEEN ME AND GENE WAS I USED
    1 OR 2 ALESIS 8 TRK ADATS SYNCED UP OR MOST OF THE TIME JUST ONE ADAT I BRING ALONG BUT WE GOT GOOD LIVE RECORDINGS

    HE BOUGHT THIS BOSS MACHINE I DO NOT KNO WHAT IT WAS MODEL WISE BUT IT WAS ONLY A 8 TRACKER

    JUST THINKIN
    SINCERELY
    BLUELOU
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    Re: HOME STUDIOS AND RECORDING FORMATS AND IDEAS

    I have an RME HDSP 96/52. 52 in at 48K and its smokin I use cubase SX 2.0, I also have a fostex D2424LV I use as a AD/DA from a Behringer MX9000 I generaly Record strait to the fostex and then bounce them Via adat into my comp which is an athalon 3200 XP with an asus mb with on board serial ata controllers and two 80 gig serial ata hd's with 1 gig mem. I get incredible results I have drums down that sound like they were done at morris sound the kicks will break your neck. LOL
    :)

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    False Alarm....Lou's not here.
    If you leave the house, you're just asking for it.

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    I think maybe he is. :ahem

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    WELL, THE CAPS ARE STILL ON.
    "don't worry, i'm a professional!"

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