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    simple recording software

    I am still trying to record stuff, but find most apps too complicated for me. I want to focus on the music, but be able to record multiple tracks without getting overwhelmed by the technology. Is there a software out there that will allow you to record without having an engineering degree? I use PC's so that is a consideration.
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    Re: simple recording software

    Some of the best sounding recordings I ever made were with the free version of the Sonor program that went around years ago.

    I do not get along with the Mac and recording. I am much better able to use the technology to get the best recordings on that old program on a PC. I don't think they make it anymore.

    I have an older laptop PC that I plan to record with, so I'm really interested to hear of possible software.
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    Re: simple recording software

    Why am I even responding to this question? Every time I've tried to record myself -- from a little handheld tape recorder -- to various computer programs, I've had awful results. I'm sure part of it is the quality of my playing, but even I can lay down a pretty simple backing track. Or so I'd like to think.

    Cut to the chase: The closest I've been able to come to something usable is GarageBand. I use a Mac, but there's a PC version, too.

    But hey, I actually did find a different tack: iMovie. And QuickTime. I had a request to provide a video of my playing, so after trying the "selfie" phone solution, I set up my laptop, fired up iMovie and started recording. Hey. You know, the built-in mic and the FaceTime camera don't do a half-bad job. The camera is only 720p, but since the question is more about recording, iMovie's sound track(s) are separate, so you can easily edit them without regard to video. You can do pretty much the same thing with QuickTime, but it's pretty kludgy. iMovie is actually pretty easy to learn, and there are lots of tutorials online if and when I get stuck. I don't want to be an expert movie producer, but for recording a song, it's actually pretty good.

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    I used Reaper in the past. It is a good program to use, and not to difficult to use if you've spent much time recording with the computer. I had forgotten that one.
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    When I recorded with Charlie Karp they used Pro Tools and I was impressed with its power. However, I could never learn it. I did get Studio One with my Presonus interface, but it isn't a whole lot easier. I think I'm going to check out Reaper!
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    Re: simple recording software

    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonjunkie View Post
    When I recorded with Charlie Karp they used Pro Tools and I was impressed with its power. However, I could never learn it. I did get Studio One with my Presonus interface, but it isn't a whole lot easier. I think I'm going to check out Reaper!
    I remember now that I recorded a couple of songs with it and got on with it well. I'd forgotten, but that's what I was using until I went Mac several years back.

    Keep me informed about how it's going with it when you use it. We might be able to exchange helpful knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fortunato View Post
    By "power", I assume you mean features... There are a few DAW comparison videos on YouTube that are very enlightening. You'd be surprised at how little difference there is between the big guns like ProTools, StudioOne, Logic Pro X and Reaper. And a big portion of those differences are features that most of us will never use, or even have a need for.

    As far as POWER? That's ALL about the Computer!!! Seriously!!! You need the most powerful processor, and the most amount RAM that you can afford... Not even half kidding... Plugins, sample rate and bit depth are resource hogs...

    This reminds me of a conversation I had with my guitar teacher a year or so ago, when I was still taking lessons. He had some nice scores printed out, so I asked him what he used. "Sibelius," was his answer.

    Sibelius costs $600 for a permanent license. Or it can be had through a subscription plan, starting at about $20/month.

    I then told him about
    MuseScore. Free. Completely. Every feature I could possibly want to write musical scores. Maybe Sibelius has more, but I haven't found anything MuseScore can't do.

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    Re: simple recording software

    What kind of audio interface do you have?

    What’s your use case for recording - a single track/one and done or multitrack, multiple instruments etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldStrummer View Post
    Why am I even responding to this question? Every time I've tried to record myself -- from a little handheld tape recorder -- to various computer programs, I've had awful results. I'm sure part of it is the quality of my playing, but even I can lay down a pretty simple backing track. Or so I'd like to think.

    Cut to the chase: The closest I've been able to come to something usable is GarageBand. I use a Mac, but there's a PC version, too.

    But hey, I actually did find a different tack: iMovie. And QuickTime. I had a request to provide a video of my playing, so after trying the "selfie" phone solution, I set up my laptop, fired up iMovie and started recording. Hey. You know, the built-in mic and the FaceTime camera don't do a half-bad job. The camera is only 720p, but since the question is more about recording, iMovie's sound track(s) are separate, so you can easily edit them without regard to video. You can do pretty much the same thing with QuickTime, but it's pretty kludgy. iMovie is actually pretty easy to learn, and there are lots of tutorials online if and when I get stuck. I don't want to be an expert movie producer, but for recording a song, it's actually pretty good.
    GarageBand is macOS only, not Windows.

    also, GJ’s use case appears to be audio, not video.

    Your challenges with audio recording are likely due to not having a proper audio interface.

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    Re: simple recording software

    In any case, since it appears GJ has a Presonus interface, a good first recording software (aka DAW) would be Audacity. This has ALL the core features that any other DAW has (Logic, ProTools, Studio One, Cubase, Sonar, etc) but it’s FOSS and fairly easy to use. But feel free to go ahead and pay for ProTools! Ardour is another good FOSS DAW but it’s a bit more finicky to set up.

    one of the biggest challenges for musicians new to recording is learning how to configure the DAW and the interface to work with each other. I’ve found it to be a learning experience each time I get a new interface and it can be frustrating. But we’re here to help you!

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    Re: simple recording software

    I have a Presonus Studio 24c Interface. My PC is an i7 with 32 GD Ram and a solid state drive (actually 500GB SSD for OS and a 2 TB HDD for file storage. I don't need complicated. I do want to record multiple tracks, both live (guitar and vocals) and MIDI.

    As far as notation software - I've been using MusicTime which was bought out by GVox and hasn't done an update in years. I think I paid about 40 bucks for it (for version 1 back when it was shareware), and it's done a great job - up to 16 voices.

    Added just now! I forgot I even had Audacity on my computer - I used it to edit some audio files a while ago. It seems to connect to both my Presonus interface and my Nektar midi keyboard. I'm going to play around with that - as well as Reaper since I get to try it out.
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    Re: simple recording software

    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonjunkie View Post
    I have a Presonus Studio 24c Interface. My PC is an i7 with 32 GD Ram and a solid state drive (actually 500GB SSD for OS and a 2 TB HDD for file storage. I don't need complicated. I do want to record multiple tracks, both live (guitar and vocals) and MIDI.

    As far as notation software - I've been using MusicTime which was bought out by GVox and hasn't done an update in years. I think I paid about 40 bucks for it (for version 1 back when it was shareware), and it's done a great job - up to 16 voices.

    Added just now! I forgot I even had Audacity on my computer - I used it to edit some audio files a while ago. It seems to connect to both my Presonus interface and my Nektar midi keyboard. I'm going to play around with that - as well as Reaper since I get to try it out.
    sounds like you’re good to go! I forgot about Reaper - yes, another good FOSS DAW software

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    Re: simple recording software

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fortunato View Post
    When you're away from home, more than you're there??? My apartment "bare essentials" rig... "Yeah... I'm nuts"...

    is that DAW reaper?
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    Re: simple recording software

    Nick,

    Reaper is fine. It will pretty much do anything you want and some of the plug-ins are REALLY nice.

    I use MAC/Logic in my studio because it works so well and seamlessly integrates with a POD HD Pro I have in my rack, which has become my go-to guitar processor.

    I do have Reaper also and I use it not only to record every now and then but to do video editing.

    All DAWs basically work the same way: Create a track, add the plug-ins you want ( reverb, delay, compression, noise gate, EQ, etc.) arm the track, set your level and the hit "Record". The master track is where you add the overall EQ and effects.

    Yes, even the simplest DAWs have a learning curve and you'll need to climb it, but with all popular DAWs there's always a YouTube video explaining how to do something.

    The most important piece of kit in your recording setup is not the computer or software. It's your monitors. All the tweaking in the world won't make up for not using reference monitors or trying to do the final mix in the cans.

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    Re: simple recording software

    Until this thread I had never heard of Reaper. Now, just today, I saw that an updated version (for Mac) had been released: 6.12.0 6bbf581

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    Nick, I'd be remiss if I didn't add that starting on a pc isn't the easiest vector. Mac with Logic and an Apogee interface is by far the easiest. It's all plug and play, no drivers to mess with, no clocking issues, etc. You plug it it, turn it on and record. The learning curve is a lot flatter when you aren't fighting the equipment AND the software at the same time.

    Of course, there are legions of players that will drop 2 or 3 grand on a guitar or amp like it's nothing but refuse to spend the same amount to have a decent recording setup and then complain about how difficult it is.

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    Re: simple recording software

    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Angler View Post
    Nick, I'd be remiss if I didn't add that starting on a pc isn't the easiest vector. Mac with Logic and an Apogee interface is by far the easiest. It's all plug and play, no drivers to mess with, no clocking issues, etc. You plug it it, turn it on and record. The learning curve is a lot flatter when you aren't fighting the equipment AND the software at the same time.

    Of course, there are legions of players that will drop 2 or 3 grand on a guitar or amp like it's nothing but refuse to spend the same amount to have a decent recording setup and then complain about how difficult it is.

    Chuck
    It's funny, since the COVID thing started we've all been working from home and doing 2-5 Zoom type meetings a day. My boss uses a Mac at home and has trouble with e-mail (exchange) and Office challenges him. It's funny hearing all the complaints, so I keep a little sign on my desk that says. "Get a PC" and every time he complains that something doesn't work I hold up the sign the the camera.
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    It depends, Chuck. If you are fluent on a PC but haven't had experience with Macs, you're going to have to figure out IOS before you can get to the recording software. I got plenty of good recordings on my PCs; I've got good recordings on the Mac--can't say one is better than the other with final output.

    I've used my Mac a lot to record, but I'm going to record my next one on the PC and see how that turns out.
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    Re: simple recording software

    I bought a Scarlett 2i2 a few years back for simple recordings for me and since then I have used the free Protools First that came with it. I can't call it simple but there was good support for it when I began and so was able to read, review, send them questions and get a response. Soon it became more intuitive and I stuck with it. Now, I can get something down and finished quickly.

    I find a drum track/backing track I like and either open it or record if from the source, like Youtube, and then add guitar, lead, and bass. I don't use plug ins; all my effects come via my pedal board. Here's one I did like that. Backing track and I added a slide guitar and lead.

    https://soundcloud.com/mike-senior-6...-backing-track


    This year another forum person heard a track of mine and ask that I add a lead. He put his track in Drop Box and I downloaded it, added the track and sent it back. A very cool experience that I thought I would never ever do.

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