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    Not as exciting as a Vette!



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    I'm partial to the '99 Outback 2.5DOHC but I've been taking a liking to the latest Forester. I want to try one.
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    It's snowing here so I guess I'll get to try out the all wheel drive today- maybe go the long way to the grocery store. To be honest, I didn't buy the car for the AWD, I just wanted a small hatchback or wagon with a manual transmission.

    I had a deposit on another car and drove the Subaru to rule them out. I stumbled upon this one- it had just arrived at the dealership. They had to peel the plastic off for me to drive it. I was impressed with the look of the car in black, then I drove it, liked the handling and ride and was seduced by the sound and feel of the flat 4. It's less refined than a Honda or a Toyota- in a good way.

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    agree on the less refined but good way. I've had both Hondas and Toyotas and frankly the car that makes me wish I still had it is the Subaru. It had a certain "let's take care of business" no-nonsense feel to it. Just watch out for the idiots out there and tell us what you think. Have you had an AWD before?
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    Every Subaru owner I've ever known except one loved their car. I'm the one exception. Our Forester is a POS. Headlights need to be replaced regularly (the sockets actually burn out) and it gets worse gas mileage than my 5.0 liter Mustang. I will agree that it instills confidence in sloppy weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTheBluesMan View Post
    Have you had an AWD before?
    I haven't. I've had a Jeep Cherokee with an old fashioned 4wd system and a CR-V with "Real Time 4WD" (which worked really well on snowy roads). I took the Subaru out on some snowy/slushy neighborhood roads this morning and liked it a lot. It wasn't real snow though- just an inch or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    I just bought a new Subaru Impreza 5 door! I like the look, the size, the handling and the sound of the flat 4 cylinder engine. I think the AWD improves the feel over a front wheel drive car even on dry pavement.

    The car is black, a color that I had planned to avoid, but it looks so good!

    I'm a little pensive after owning Hondas, Toyotas and my Miata for the past couple of decades, but it feels good to try something different.
    Congrats! You will enjoy your Subie! I've enjoyed the three I've had (aside from a little oil/misuse/abuse mishap on my last Forester).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    It's snowing here so I guess I'll get to try out the all wheel drive today- maybe go the long way to the grocery store. To be honest, I didn't buy the car for the AWD, I just wanted a small hatchback or wagon with a manual transmission.

    I had a deposit on another car and drove the Subaru to rule them out. I stumbled upon this one- it had just arrived at the dealership. They had to peel the plastic off for me to drive it. I was impressed with the look of the car in black, then I drove it, liked the handling and ride and was seduced by the sound and feel of the flat 4. It's less refined than a Honda or a Toyota- in a good way.
    Nothing compares to a Subaru in the snow and ice!

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    Lot's of black ice on the roads today! It was the kind of morning where it's right at 32 degrees F and as I wiped the dew off a window that wasn't frozen, it would freeze. As I scraped the soft ice of the windshield, harder ice took its place. The car performed really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdog View Post
    Nothing compares to a Subaru in the snow and ice!
    We have a set of Blizzaks on the Subaru for the winter - it's pretty much unstoppable.
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    I had Blizzaks on my Scion xB for a while. Even with front wheel drive it was an improvement. That car's rear end likes to lead when the roads are slick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonjunkie View Post
    Every Subaru owner I've ever known except one loved their car. I'm the one exception. Our Forester is a POS. Headlights need to be replaced regularly (the sockets actually burn out) and it gets worse gas mileage than my 5.0 liter Mustang. I will agree that it instills confidence in sloppy weather.
    What year is your Forester?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdog View Post
    What year is your Forester?
    2009 - real plain model. The wife basically uses it to get groceries, go to AA meetings and stop at the package store on the way home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonjunkie View Post
    The wife basically uses it to get groceries, go to AA meetings and stop at the package store on the way home.
    This would be funny if it weren't so sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldStrummer View Post
    This would be funny if it weren't so sad.
    yup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonjunkie View Post
    yup!
    There's a song in there somewhere.
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    Re: Car shopping!

    Well, my turn now.

    Though I loved my old Ford, it was time for a change, so today I bought a new partner for the road.

    Got a new Mitsubishi Lancer HL-T. They're still in production in Australia, Brazil and a couple of countries more. Not sure if they still make them in Japan.



    Unexpensive and fast. Just like I like cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sérgio View Post
    Unexpensive and fast. Just like I like cars.
    That's how I like my women!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sérgio View Post
    Well, my turn now.

    Though I loved my old Ford, it was time for a change, so today I bought a new partner for the road.

    Got a new Mitsubishi Lancer HL-T. They're still in production in Australia, Brazil and a couple of countries more. Not sure if they still make them in Japan.



    Unexpensive and fast. Just like I like cars.
    Given what I bought, this car fits in with this thread- the Impreza WRX STI and Lancer Evo were higher performance versions of our cars and were adversaries (I said "were" because I don't think the Evo is available anymore).

    My Impreza was inexpensive, though not particularly fast (by modern standards, though the posted 0-60 time is the same as my Miata and it feels fast enough to me).

    I think the only Mitsubishi car that we can get in the US is the Mirage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Given what I bought, this car fits in with this thread- the Impreza WRX STI and Lancer Evo were higher performance versions of our cars and were adversaries (I said "were" because I don't think the Evo is available anymore).

    My Impreza was inexpensive, though not particularly fast (by modern standards, though the posted 0-60 time is the same as my Miata and it feels fast enough to me).

    I think the only Mitsubishi car that we can get in the US is the Mirage.

    Sure, when I said fast I meant fast enough to be fun to drive.

    Indeed, Mitsubishi only makes Lancers in the countries I pointed and a couple more. They’re still in production here and for Brazilian standards it was a good buy. Besides I’ve always been a Lancer fan. It’s a kind of a classic model, being around since ‘73.

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    most of the Mistubishis here are prized as ricers and drifters, in spite of their total lack of practicality with our pothole and frost heave rippled roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTheBluesMan View Post
    most of the Mistubishis here are prized as ricers and drifters, in spite of their total lack of practicality with our pothole and frost heave rippled roads.

    What’s a ricer?

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    small japanese cars that are tricked out with lower rides, often with big wings, extreme fender flares, air dams, those goofy tilted in wheels and the ubiquitous coffee can fart mufflers. Frequently paired with a stereo cranking out bowel-churning seismic waves of no particularly sonically meaningful emanations thinly disguised as music.

    The 'enhancements' nearly always drastically cost more than the car and serve little purpose except to redirect the owner's money away from unnecessary things like rent, food, child support, you know, complete waste of money that could be otherwise spent on their rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTheBluesMan View Post
    small japanese cars that are tricked out with lower rides, often with big wings, extreme fender flares, air dams, those goofy tilted in wheels and the ubiquitous coffee can fart mufflers. Frequently paired with a stereo cranking out bowel-churning seismic waves of no particularly sonically meaningful emanations thinly disguised as music.

    The 'enhancements' nearly always drastically cost more than the car and serve little purpose except to redirect the owner's money away from unnecessary things like rent, food, child support, you know, complete waste of money that could be otherwise spent on their rides.

    Ew...

    I myself don’t like mods in guitars or cars. I play and drive them all stock.

    As for my Mitsubishi, I also like it because it reminds me of its WWII distant great-grandfather...


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    They have spectator drags at the the 1/4 mile oval track in my town. Highly modified Camaros with seasoned drivers were king until a several seasons ago when people started showing up with heavily modified AWD Mitsubishis and Eagles. 3000GT VR4, 1st and 2nd generation Eclipse GSX, even a little minivan style thing- all with over 700 horsepower. Not only do they launch hard, but they can be driven harder through the turns by a less experienced drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sérgio View Post
    Sure, when I said fast I meant fast enough to be fun to drive.
    That's what I found with the Subaru- it's fast enough to be fun to drive. Though I've found that with most cars that have a manual transmission- I believe my MG Midget only had about 60 horsepower! My Miata has 133hp. The Subaru has 152hp.

    BTW, I thought of what you said about cars that excite you (or don't) when I drove the Subaru. It's got a lot of character (way more than a Honda or Toyota) and that's a big part of what drew me to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    That's what I found with the Subaru- it's fast enough to be fun to drive. Though I've found that with most cars that have a manual transmission- I believe my MG Midget only had about 60 horsepower! My Miata has 133hp. The Subaru has 152hp.

    BTW, I thought of what you said about cars that excite you (or don't) when I drove the Subaru. It's got a lot of character (way more than a Honda or Toyota) and that's a big part of what drew me to it!
    I’m enjoying the Lancer’s 160hp. Quite a bit of fun.

    I don’t really like Asian cars. They just don’t ring my bell. The Lancer has always been an exception, because of Mitsubishi’s history and because the car reminds me of the Zero-sen. I like the “sport” lines of this car and it does remind me of a fighter airplane.

    Thing is, my Ford was already calling for me to throw him the towel, Ford is closing factories here and Chevys are overpriced and outdated, so it was easy for me to go to the last option. Not that I’m complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sérgio View Post
    What’s a ricer?

    I've always understood this to be shorthand for "rice-burner," a Japanese-made small car modded (factory and secondhand) to be a performance car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldStrummer View Post

    I've always understood this to be shorthand for "rice-burner," a Japanese-made small car modded (factory and secondhand) to be a performance car.
    I had that same idea, plus the term coming from a residual post-war prejudice against Japanese stuff.

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    just slang here, nothing racial or prejudicial. the car owners and drivers here call them that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sérgio View Post
    What’s a ricer?
    Around here it stands for Rice Rocket... My favorite ricer story was the Toyota with a Honda windshield sticker - that had to be worth at least 20 horsepower!
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    I went the other way. My Crossfire had 215 HP and with the 6-speed it was a fun to drive car. My new Mustang is my first car with an auto since my 1970 Cougar. It is actually pretty fun to drive - but then again, 460 HP helps make it fun to drive, too.
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    here rice rocket meant the bikes. I once got to drive, er, attempt to drive, er, stay on a Z900r Ninja. I had my motorcycle license but I rode a 100cc dirt bike. This was to a dirt bike like a galaxy is to an asteroid. I got it going, shifted it into 2nd gear and lifted the front end. To my credit I did not dump it. I got back to the owner and said "do not ever let me drive this again."
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    I needed a crossover/SUV to haul band gear and model airplanes so I just picked up a new one this week - has BOTH a supercharger AND a turbocharger. Heads up display, Pretty much self driving too. I'm going to have to build a new barn to hold cars, lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Angler View Post
    Anyone guess what it is?
    Expensive???

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonjunkie View Post
    I went the other way. My Crossfire had 215 HP and with the 6-speed it was a fun to drive car. My new Mustang is my first car with an auto since my 1970 Cougar. It is actually pretty fun to drive - but then again, 460 HP helps make it fun to drive, too.
    I told my wife that, if I didn't get a manual transmission, I was going to need a lot more horsepower!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTheBluesMan View Post
    here rice rocket meant the bikes. I once got to drive, er, attempt to drive, er, stay on a Z900r Ninja. I had my motorcycle license but I rode a 100cc dirt bike. This was to a dirt bike like a galaxy is to an asteroid. I got it going, shifted it into 2nd gear and lifted the front end. To my credit I did not dump it. I got back to the owner and said "do not ever let me drive this again."
    I had a hot rodded Suzuki GSX-R1100 almost 25 years ago. It ended my interest in fast cars. It was a time machine. I loved it! It terrified me! Heroin on wheels!

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    glorious suicide machine
    tramps like us, baby
    we were born to runnnnnnnn ...

    to the medicine cabinet, I have a headache
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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Angler View Post
    I needed a crossover/SUV to haul band gear and model airplanes so I just picked up a new one this week - has BOTH a supercharger AND a turbocharger. Heads up display, Pretty much self driving too. I'm going to have to build a new barn to hold cars, lol!

    Anyone guess what it is?
    Volvo?
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    Some car porn with the Lancer


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