Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Would you take lessons from this guy?

  1. #1
    Forum Member CyberStrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    259

    Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Hey,

    I'm looking at taking some more lessons and this is a local guy.

    So is he a shreader? It looks to me like he's using many technics & scales. He's a grad from U of Wisconsin, music major.

    Youtube link

    What do you think?

    Cyber

  2. #2
    Forum Member Mesotech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Lafayette, LoUiSiAna
    Posts
    2,527

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Based off of that and his other video, no I wouldn't take lessons from him.

    I would have preferred to see him actually "play" something instead of wanking scales and tapping up and down the neck. I also didn't get a real good sense of how he perceives "tone" or "style", you know... subtle inflections of playing technique that add emotional qualities to his playing.

    I'm not saying the guy is bad or can't play, because from those two video's it's too difficult to say for sure. Simply not enough information. If you're wanting to learn scales or tapping techniques, you could do just as well with a quick Google search for scale patterns and purchasing a decent metronome. The hard part is the discipline to actually apply yourself, which is something a teacher can't instill in you. Either you have the discipline or you don't.

  3. #3
    Forum Member Offshore Angler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    New York Finger Lakes Area
    Posts
    8,466

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Really, you need talk with him and see what his goals are for the student and what his teaching technique is like. I'd insist that at least a part of each lesson is based on applying theory as well. He might be a great teacher or not. The video is irrelevant.
    "No harmonic knowledge, no sense of time, a ghastly tone, unskilled vibrato, and so on. Chuck is one of the worst guitar players I know" -Gravity Jim

  4. #4
    Forum Member muddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    The Roadhouse, NC
    Posts
    610

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Well, I wouldn't as that is not a style I would want to learn / master.

    If that's your bag though try it out.

    He seems to be "talking a lot, but not saying much" imho.
    While flashy fast scales impress some folk and it surely helps with dextarity, I'd be more interested in learning some cool rhythm chops, tasteful phrasing or something related to timing.

  5. #5
    Forum Member CyberStrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    259

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    A couple of things I didn't like,

    It seemed like it's all speed for him. I wouldn't want to play a solo like that...space is your friend, connecting thoughts & phrases.

    I didn't much like his tone, sounded thin, fizzy

    I'll sure I'll meet with him and have a lesson or two to give it a try.

    Cyber

  6. #6
    Forum Member NeoFauve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    in interesting times
    Posts
    12,530

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Is this supposed to market him as an instructor?

    5:12 of meedly-meedly, or awesomeness, depending on the beholder.
    One might infer any of a number of things from that video.

    You'll obviously need to have a conversation.
    "Well, I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
    Elvis Costello

  7. #7
    Forum Member thegeezer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Madtown
    Posts
    1,407

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    He's quick but doesn't say much. IMHO

  8. #8
    Forum Member Offshore Angler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    New York Finger Lakes Area
    Posts
    8,466

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Man, how quick people jump to conclusions! How do you know the guy doesn't play other styles like jazz or country?

    Guy's got a music degree. I would suspect there is more to him than what he was showing there - which was pretty cool with all neo-classical elements he juxtaposed into the shred style.

    Honestly, I think what he was demonstrating was lost on a lot of people who only saw "shred' and didn't understand the nod to the Pagmieister. Probably "too hip for the room" in a lot of cases.
    "No harmonic knowledge, no sense of time, a ghastly tone, unskilled vibrato, and so on. Chuck is one of the worst guitar players I know" -Gravity Jim

  9. #9

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Maybe he was targeting shred heads with that video. I didn't watch it....
    Fuzz is proof God love us and wants us to be happy. - Franklin
    http://www.frankdenigris.com

  10. #10
    Forum Member refin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    4,753

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Right off the bat, it's.........
    (a) soloing
    (b) speed
    (c) '80s technique
    (d) lacking versatility, feel or rhythmic structure
    (e) singular tone,no vibrato,lack of melody
    (f) No dynamics

    This is totally my opinion,certainly open to different takes!
    If he plays what you want to learn,hire him.
    One thing that is wrong with guitar over the past 15-20 years--SOLO<SOLO>SOLO!!!
    I would get together with this guy and audition him (quietly and secretly).You are the paying party as far as lessons,and he needs to meet YOUR expectations of what YOU want to accomplish,not the other way around.In other words:"Can this guy teach me what I want to learn,and not make me a carbon copy of himself?"
    I have been teaching 25 years,and there have been times where I wasn't what the student wanted,even though I thought I knew better.....no offense taken,I let them go to another teacher.
    I'm not dissing him-----I'm just saying that if you want to be versatile,seek elsewhere.A music degree means nothing.
    Last edited by refin; 07-29-2009 at 07:52 PM.
    "My flesh and my heart fail...but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever."
    PS. 73:26

    MY JAMS--
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...&content=music

  11. #11
    Forum Member thegeezer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Madtown
    Posts
    1,407

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    I practiced three piece last night cause the other guitarist was ill. If i would have used that technique it would have been a very dull practice. And fans aren't that impressed with it either. I did try my new/old Tele last night and I loved the tone. Sorry to fall off track.

  12. #12
    Forum Member CyberStrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    259

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    We'll thanks for you thoughts.

    I'm not that style of player, but if he can teach me new scales & how & when to use them, that would be a help to me.

    I'm going to meet with him and see what else he playes.

    Thanks again.

    Cyber

  13. #13
    Forum Member thegeezer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Madtown
    Posts
    1,407

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberStrat View Post
    We'll thanks for you thoughts.

    I'm not that style of player, but if he can teach me new scales & how & when to use them, that would be a help to me.

    I'm going to meet with him and see what else he playes.

    Thanks again.

    Cyber
    That can't hurt anything. Larry Carlton I believe has instruction dvds out and so does Robben Ford if you want useful scales and arpeggios.

  14. #14
    Forum Member pauln's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    139

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    I would not because he does not sound like he hears what he plays...
    Try to find someone that does, like this...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3w0r6kQrRI
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=790872

    1988 Strat Plus
    2007 Deluxe Reverb
    2005 Ibanez AF75
    1980 Sigma/Martin DM-18

  15. #15
    Forum Member hudpucker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    location, location!!
    Posts
    1,749

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    I can already do what he does in the video; HOWEVER, that might be only one facet of his musicianship (I hope). This might be a 'look at my trick bag' vid anyway....

    His tone is GAWD-awful to my ears. But tone is subjective. And digital camera mics aren't the best way to record compressed for Youtube vids.

    Who knows? He might be a great teacher or he might be terrible at conveying knowledge.

    Give him a shot. What do you have to really lose?
    Last edited by hudpucker; 12-31-2009 at 12:15 PM.
    Tone is in the fingers, eh? Let's hear your Vox, Marshall and Fender fingerings then...

  16. #16
    Forum Member Wilko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    5,105

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    He's apparently an a-hole.
    Check out these comments he posted about Steve Howe:

    "I believe the cure for "guitar face" lies in knowing the note names one is playing as well as the patterns for soloing with. Check out my solo at "improvised metal guitar solo" by Rob Meronek to see what I mean. (black background, yellow Strat)"

    "I love Steve Howe's playing with Yes, but as to weather or not he knows every note name of the notes he's on as he plays them or not, there are two articles you can look up if you're interested.
    The first is on page 38 of the January 1998 issue of Guitar magazine, and the second is on page 58 of the July 2008 issue of Guitar Player magazine, specifically the last sentence of the article. I'm not going to reprint them because they are copyrighted material, but you can look them up yourself."

    Typical attitude from a music major. Too much "knowledge" kills creativity or expression.

  17. #17
    Forum Member Doc W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    1,248

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    My answer is no. Wait until he learns how to tune to concert pitch and stop wanking.
    "The beauty and profundity of God is more real than any mere calculation."

  18. #18
    Forum Member redb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    617

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    He's better than me (I think?) so I could probably learn a thing or two from him.

    Long term? No.
    Mitch Mitchell talking about Jimi and strats in general.
    If the walrus is Paul then who is Carmen Sandiego?

  19. #19
    Forum Member boobtube21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Looking through the bent back tulips
    Posts
    4,830

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    I don't know...I could only get through about 1:30 of that video, and it didn't sound very good to me. He had stuff to play, and he's obviously educated, but that was pretty sloppy. Nothing to do with not liking the style, I've heard guitar players I didn't like that could play circles around that guy...and not just because they were faster.

    If you play that sloppy and compare yourself to Steve Howe, you can't have very good ears. So yeah, I'd avoid a guy like that for a teacher.

    And yeah, I'd like to hear him do that on an acoustic.

  20. #20
    Forum Member Wilko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    5,105

    Re: Would you take lessons from this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by boobtube21 View Post

    And yeah, I'd like to hear him do that on an acoustic.
    Or that same guitar with no ridiculous gain to cover up his slop.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •