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    Fret Leveling and Repair

    Can anyone lead me to a good narrative on dressing, leveling, and smoothing out frets. I know there is a point in which frets simply need to be replaced as well. I was considering getting the stewmac fret repair kit. Anyone tried to do the work themselves? I have decent shop skills and have performed other repairs successfully.

    Any ideas?

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Whoaa, warning danger Will Robinson! This is one thing you do NOT want to dabble in on a keeper guitar!

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Gris View Post
    Whoaa, warning danger Will Robinson! This is one thing you do NOT want to dabble in on a keeper guitar!
    I concur. We ain' talkin' 'bout swappin' some knobs heah or unsolderin' some pickups. Fret work is serious bidness!

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    I've been doing all my fret work for years. It's easy if your are good with your hands.

    If you mess up a simple leveling/dressing job, you won't hurt your guitar (as long as you don't chew up your fretboard edge too badly).

    Use plenty of masking tape, and that three sided file with the smoothed off corners is your best friend!

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    I learned on a Les Paul (a beat Studio that I paid $200 for. It had a repaired headstock and mismatched knobs).

    It came out very good. I did not use a kit. I bought a few things from Stew Mac and modified some files per one of Dan Erlewine's book.

    It's pretty tedious work but pretty satisfying when it comes out good.

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Stew-Mac has a "how to" section which goes into pretty good detail on a lot of these procedures. Biggest thing is not getting in a hurry! I taught myself too... out of desparation because I couldn't afford to have luthier here locally do it... albeit they do tremendous work! But dang!!! At about $300 - 350 depending on how much they have to do!

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    It's really pretty easy. And if you mess up the frets can always be replaced. Just go slow and if you're handy, it will be fine.
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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Get a beater.
    Then get Dan Erlewine's "Guitar Player Repair Guide".

    Then visit Stew-Mac to get the tools and have at it!

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    I bought one of these kits http://www.fretrefinishing.com, and can't say enough good things about it. I didn't follow the instructions to the tee, because after leveling, I pulled the strings and taped the fretboard before "crowning" and polishing. Judging from the marking on the tape, I'm glad I did. Other than that, it made the job a snap and didn't take long at all to go through each of my older guitars to make'em play purdy again.
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    Plus, once you learn to level and crown & polish - you can buy a MIM neck and make it a keeper.

    I'm always amazed at the number of people that will shell out for a Warmoth or other neck, install it but never level, crown a polish it - just use it as received.
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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesotech View Post
    I bought one of these kits http://www.fretrefinishing.com, and can't say enough good things about it. I didn't follow the instructions to the tee, because after leveling, I pulled the strings and taped the fretboard before "crowning" and polishing. Judging from the marking on the tape, I'm glad I did. Other than that, it made the job a snap and didn't take long at all to go through each of my older guitars to make'em play purdy again.
    Wow, that looks interesting! (and affordable)

    How many necks can you do with one kit?

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Gris View Post
    Wow, that looks interesting! (and affordable)

    How many necks can you do with one kit?
    You can do quite a few. The main part of the kit is a small metal plate that is bent appropriately to do what it does. The rest of the kit (and the parts that wear) are sheets of wet or dry sandpaper. The sandpaper is easily replaceable from any hardware store (and in some cases from WallyWorld's automotive section).

    Oh, and there's that little lever thing to lift the strings above the nut. That doesn't wear out either.

    So buy more sandpaper when you need it, and you can level, crown, and polish as many frets as your heart desires.
    POO DAT!!!

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Hmmm, what is the radius of the metal thing...? Can you choose diff sized ones?

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Gris, you can buy levelers with different radii, but you don't need to. Using a bigger radius can actually help if you are only fixing a problem on one part of the neck. What's really cool, is with today's monstrous frets you can re-radius the neck by fretwork alone.
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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    my frets are, gulp, tiny...

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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Gris View Post
    my frets are, gulp, tiny...
    He said while looking around nervously.......anxious to get to the towel rack as quickly as possible!
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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesotech View Post
    I bought one of these kits http://www.fretrefinishing.com, and can't say enough good things about it. I didn't follow the instructions to the tee, because after leveling, I pulled the strings and taped the fretboard before "crowning" and polishing. Judging from the marking on the tape, I'm glad I did. Other than that, it made the job a snap and didn't take long at all to go through each of my older guitars to make'em play purdy again.
    I've been using this kit for for years now.
    Of course, all my kits were comped to me, but I'd still buy one if that were not the case...
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    Re: Fret Leveling and Repair

    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Angler View Post
    Plus, once you learn to level and crown & polish - you can buy a MIM neck and make it a keeper.

    I'm always amazed at the number of people that will shell out for a Warmoth or other neck, install it but never level, crown a polish it - just use it as received.
    Yer - like me - I bought a MM LIC neck and just bolted it onto a Squier body - both of which I bought on fleabay - set of Sperzels, a Wilkinson trem, three GFS lipsticks, set of 11-50's, a little bit of filing on the nut, set the intonation & spring tension, checked the relief and I was rockin' down the road - they don't all come with ropey fret jobs...

    Now if they only made a re-fretting kit that worked that easy...
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