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    Does this repair look solid?

    Not exactly a Fender but figured this would be the best area to ask. So this guitar is advertised as having the "head stock professionally repaired and re-inforced with fiberglass." I know it looks ugly, buy do y'all think it's solid? ?



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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    It's not fiberglass, it's bondo. Probably used to fill a big gap.

    There's no way to tell how it was put back together. It didn't go back together the same way it came apart, you can see the crack that runs along the side of the headstock has filler in it too.

    I wouldn't touch it unless I could see it in person, and then only if I could talk to the guy who repaired it. Unless it was $20, then maybe.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    First off, if it was professionally done, they would have painted it....
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Yeah, it looks suspect. I'd like to see some biscuits or dowels in there as well as no gap in the crack. It doesn't look very good to me either.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Run away!!!

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Looks like a butcher job.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    :brr


    Any 'repair' that has exposed wood, and stuff filling large holes is not a 'professional repair.'

    Unless it was repaired by somebody who had a profession that wasn't lutherie. :lol

    Run away!

    "professional headstock repair" is probably second to "vintage vibe" in misused terms on ebay. I've used that term once in an auction, but had high-rez photos of the damage, and named the luthier that performed the repair.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
    Unless it was repaired by somebody who had a profession that wasn't lutherie. :lol
    Repaired by an accountant ... or a professional bodybuilder ... :hee

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    An accountant would spray it black trying to hide his work.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabby
    or a professional bodybuilder ... :hee
    Definately looks like it's repaired by somebody who had a six-pack.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabby
    ... or a professional bodybuilder ... :hee
    You mean body shop worker.

    Man, that is ugly.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?


    BTW- I thought Bondo was pinkish. That looks like some kind of fiberglass resin to me. & a bad repair job to boot.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Bondo is whatever color catalyst you add. Green, white, pink, red. You name it.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Well, that is referred to as a "Hockey Stick" headstock. Guess the guy took it too literally.

    Funny thing is, the non-angled hockey sticks are getting to have some collector appeal. You should do what everyone else does with them. Build a fake 5150 and sell it on eBay.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    So I guess I'll pass on this one. Too bad cause it's a MIA Hamer. The ugly part I can get over, the un-solid repair, well that's another story.........;)

    Thanks y'all.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    I was wondering about that inked on number. Otherwise, it was very similar to my Guild Lberator, which had the aforementioned weak headstock.

    This one was wierd. It literally cracked without impact, in the case, during summer. It was almost 15 years old, so it wasn't unstable fresh wood.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Body filler made by the "Bondo" brand comes with a reddish hardener, and if the end result is pink, you used too much red stuff. A lot of cheap body shops will do this because it cures faster, but stays sort of soft, and will not last very long.

    Fiberglass resin would be sort of clear, but brownish in hue, and would have darkened the wood. Like Bondo, if fiberglass resin is greenish in hue, a lot of hardener was used, but this is not as big an issue with resin. In any case, this repair does not appear to contain any resin, or any actual fiberglass for that matter.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Quote Originally Posted by photoweborama
    First off, if it was professionally done, they would have painted it....
    While I agree that the repair shown above does not look good, or stable....

    A repair shop will do what you ask them too (to some degeree) If a college kid busts his headstock off and can't afford to have the headstock repaired and refinished, he may ask the shop to glue it back together and make it structurally sound, but not do the extra work to make it pretty.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesPauloholic
    While I agree that the repair shown above does not look good, or stable....

    A repair shop will do what you ask them too (to some degeree) If a college kid busts his headstock off and can't afford to have the headstock repaired and refinished, he may ask the shop to glue it back together and make it structurally sound, but not do the extra work to make it pretty.

    This is a very well done, stable repair, but no refinish work was done. (this repair obviously looks better than the one listed above though...)
    True, but there's no chunks of wood missing, either. If there were, there'd be either paint, or splines or both.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Why even bother???

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    :troll

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    if the price is right and the guitar is something you want, then buy it and have it re-repaired.
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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
    True, but there's no chunks of wood missing, either. If there were, there'd be either paint, or splines or both.
    Good Point.

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

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    Re: Does this repair look solid?

    I did guitar repair for a long time, a long time ago and that is not a proper repair at all. Even if you were missing the pieces the proper thing to do would be to shape the uneven and jagged surfaces to smooth so you could make pieces of THE SAME TYPE OF WOOD and glue them in with tightbond or similar glue which strength is STRONGER than the original wood so the repair will never come apart. Then sand and finish properly so that it looks AND feels right when you play it.

    The Gibson repair above is a good repair and with the right technique and glue will be a very strong neck. On the other one I'd pass and wait till something nicer comes along.

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