Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Analog warmth?

  1. #1
    ZoneFiend photoweborama's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    7,253

    Analog warmth?

    I've heard that some are now recording digitally, mixing it down to tape, and then importing it back to the hard drive to get "real" analog warmth in their recordings...

    Did I hear right?
    The Best Guitar Photos On The Net!
    Photoweborama

  2. #2
    Forum Member ziess's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Sunny Falkirk, Scotland.
    Posts
    2,698

    Re: Analog warmth?

    You did indeed.
    It's a joke really. If you've got the capability to record things onto tape, why not put it there in the first place? Then, if required, you can digitise it to mix it.
    You can buy hardware now that 'replicates' the sound of analouge tape (ie. it cuts the highs a bit and introduces a bit of hiss, basically) that costs thousands more than a well looked-after Studer machine.

    It's all a lie. I think it was Wilco who made an album that sounded really 'analouge' and 'authentic' and everyone love the sound. They recorded it digitally and used the 'TrueTape' emulation in Cubase.

    This is about marketing. If 'that' 'analogue' sound is what you want, buy a tape machine.

    I know that wasn't the most balanced of posts but hey, that's my take on it!

  3. #3
    fezz parka
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Quote Originally Posted by photoweborama
    I've heard that some are now recording digitally, mixing it down to tape, and then importing it back to the hard drive to get "real" analog warmth in their recordings...

    Did I hear right?
    Yep, and it can give digital tracks the warmth and compression that comes with good old saturated analog tape. It's especially good for drum tracks. There's much more to bouncing to tape than getting your tracks to hiss.:hee
    Last edited by fezz parka; 11-30-2005 at 01:21 PM.

  4. #4
    Gravity Jim
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Fezz is correct, of course. Analog "warmth" is not a combination of high-end loss and tape hiss. What people are going for with this technique is a combination of even-numbered harmonic distortion and a specific kind of compression that occurs when analog tape is saturated. I get an effect very similar to this on synth drums by running them through my POD Pro on the "Tube Pre-Amp" setting, adding a bit of compression in the 02/R, delaying the return tracks by a millisecond or so and blending the POD output with the original tracks. Insta-fat, much more convincing drum sound. If I add a plate reverb to just the POD return and leave the original signal clean, I get a nice clean attack and a cool 'verb.

    There are some digital plug-ins that sort of replicate this effect, but they don't really sound like tape (as if "tape" had a definable sound... to be more realistic, a specific tape recorder has a definable sound, but "tape" doesn't).

    I can't speak for fezz but I think he would agree: a good recording consists of a good arrangement, well played and well recorded. Even now in this digital environment, what you play and how you play it is 1,000 times more important to how your record sounds than what you recorded it with.

  5. #5
    fezz parka
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gravity Jim
    I can't speak for fezz but I think he would agree: a good recording consists of a good arrangement, well played and well recorded. Even now in this digital environment, what you play and how you play it is 1,000 times more important to how your record sounds than what you recorded it with.
    Exactly.:yay

  6. #6
    Formerly Tele-Tubby TT100's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    MEMPHIS
    Posts
    2,439

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Analog?



    Woof!

    :yay
    Last edited by Tele-Tubby; 11-30-2005 at 01:51 PM.
    On SmartPhones:

    "Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But That only permitted other men with machines to enslave them." Frank Herbert.

  7. #7
    fezz parka
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Now that's tone!:hee

  8. #8
    ZoneFiend photoweborama's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    7,253

    Re: Analog warmth?

    So it really works best on just some tracks, not a fianl mix?
    The Best Guitar Photos On The Net!
    Photoweborama

  9. #9
    fezz parka
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Some guys like to take their final mixes to 1/2" analog tape, then send it off for mastering. We did a Dave Grusin score and he insisted on doing it that way. But it's really becoming the exception rather than the norm.

  10. #10
    fezz parka
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Oh Jim, I got to talk with Wes Dooley this week. Great guy, and loves talking about microphones. Think I'm going to get an AEA R84 from him at cost. It's a ribbon world!:hee

  11. #11
    Gravity Jim
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Arrrrrgh. You dirty rat...... I would love one of them there mics. I'm spending my whole budget this quarter on drywall and carpet! Next quarter I'm looking at mics and a hihg-end pre. It might be time for a ribbon.

    I met Wes at NAMM a couple years back, and he would seem to be da man. He offered to send me one of his mics to audition, but I told him I knew I wasn't able to buy it and didn't think I could stand sending it back!

    In the next booth NHT was showing off a surround rig by playing the 5.1 remix of "Toy Matinee.." holy shit! Best surround remix HANDS DOWN. Breathtaking.

  12. #12
    fezz parka
    Guest

    Re: Analog warmth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gravity Jim
    He offered to send me one of his mics to audition, but I told him I knew I wasn't able to buy it and didn't think I could stand sending it back!
    He knows that, that's why he gives 'em to you.:hee

    I'd love a 44, but can't justify spending that type of bread on a mic, but the 84 at cost is hard to refuse.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •