I don't have enuff experience with them to knoe but the FullDrive 2 seems pretty sweet.
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I don't have enuff experience with them to knoe but the FullDrive 2 seems pretty sweet.
The Barber Direct Drive.
if you know how to hold a soldering iron, go out and built your own. I just did it, it's really worth it and, in case of all those TS cones out there, WAY cheaper.
Hughes & Kettner Tube factor ..OD pedal. It actually has a tube in it. This the best one I found. Prior to that I used Fulldrive 2....a close second. I have a few others..but none are good enough to even mention.
i have a h&k tube factor..it is true by pass and quiet for a real tube and runs the proper volts for the tube as well(unlike others)...it is not the most flexible as far as eq but is very effective and transparent if set up with the right tube and settings.....it really shines thru old non master marshalls too.....an old rat,marshall bluesbreaker pedal(early one) dod 250 and several tubescreamers(okay for some things) are the rest of my arsenal........jcs
do you guys think the tube factor would work well with a Trace Elliot Velocette? Im looking to add some guts to my OD sound....marshall-esque but not trying to hit the tone bang on.
i bought mine used for$90 ...i wouldnt pay the $250 new without trying other pedals...jcs
I bought my TS-9 used back in '83 or so for $15 and haven't found another that I better.
I really just use it as a boost to give me the sound that I'd get if my Fender amp was cranked up to about 8.
Fulldrive 2 is the King of overdrive pedals (it's what I want out of a pedal anyway). I have an origional TS9 that I have with my rehersal rig. It sounds great to. My fave before I found the FD2 was the mid 80's Ibanez Super Tube that they made for a year or two. It was my main drive pedal from the mid 80's till a couple of months ago when I tried out my FD2.
Greg
One more for the (very expensive) FullDrive 2.
Great pedal!
I`ve had the H&K Tube Factor, very warm tones for crunchy sounds and the tube thing is really great. But it isn`t a real overdrive pedal.:tw59
crowther hotcake
ok so the tones I would look for from this pedal would be a nice bluesy drive in mode one and a marshall type tone in mode 2. Which of the FD2 and the H&K do you all think would do the job best.
Got a bunch of OD Pedals working...
Boss SD-1 (modded to the TS-808 Circuit ),
Fulltone Soulbender and a H&K Tubefactor (mostly used only with Factor 1 ).
I will probably replace the SD-1 with a Sparkle Drive if I stumble over a cheap one....
cu
bluesfreak :smokin
I've been through a ton of them. Boss's, Tech21, Voodoo Labs, MXR, Mesa, multi-effects, amp-channel-only, etc. etc.... and for me and my Tone needs, it's Fulltone FD2 into clean Fender Amps.
Almost anything by Menatone, but my absolute favorite is the Dirty Blonde - I just bought my second one so I can keep one at medium gain and one with the gain dimed. Appropriately enough for this Forum, the pedal is an abused Blonde Bassman on the verge of self-destruction in a stompbox. Spitty and nasty and snarly, just the way you like it!
Fulltone Fulldrive II
The original Ibanez tube screamer
John Landgraff Dynamic Overdrive.
Overdrive tone is soooo subjective. I've owned or have owned a TS-9 (with Analogman brown mod), Lovetone Cheese Source; Klon; Barber Tone Pump; Stamps Overdrive; Pearl OD-05, Bass Fulldrive II, and a Crowther Hotcake.
Of all those, I use the Klon, Pearl, and Bass Fulldrive II the most. The Klon is a great boost that seems more like an amp accessory than an effect. The Pearl is smooth and very flexible and kicks my TS-9's butt. The Bass Fulldrive is like playing through a cranked SVT (and that's a good thing. :)) I dig them all.
Ken
Ken, have you tried the Barber Deep Fryer bass OD pedal? It's the only OD I have ever found suitably designed for bass.
For, guitar, I use the Direct Drive. Got it a few months ago, I guess. It beats all.
Two other ones I guess I'm going to have to check out sometime! ;) Thanks for the tip!Quote:
Originally posted by 3rdStone
Ken, have you tried the Barber Deep Fryer bass OD pedal? It's the only OD I have ever found suitably designed for bass.
For, guitar, I use the Direct Drive. Got it a few months ago, I guess. It beats all.
Actually, I was talking about those pedals for guitar. For bass, I run a stereo rig and run either a Black Cat Bass Octave Fuzz pedal (Maestro Bass Brassmaster copy) or a Marshall Guv'nor pedal on the highs into a 2x10 cab. The lows go into a big 1x15. Yum! :)
I know, but I ran into you on another thread about basses. It turns out we both have the Fender RBV. Since this thread is about OD's and you play bass, too..........:cool:Quote:
Originally posted by Ken
....Actually, I was talking about those pedals for guitar....
:dude
The H&k Tube Factor.Quote:
Originally posted by FatStrat
ok so the tones I would look for from this pedal would be a nice bluesy drive in mode one and a marshall type tone in mode 2. Which of the FD2 and the H&K do you all think would do the job best.
Fulldrive II, hands down!
I would like a Fulldrive II, but I would have to import it and at the price of a Standard Stratocaster I think I will make do with the Boss Blues Driver which aint all that cheap either at $300nz!
kebmel, isnt the hotcake made in new zealand? jcs
2 Ibanez TS-808's ( or analogmans TS9/808). One set for clean boost and one for drive.
I have recently discovered the Barber products...What can anyone tell me about them and how they work with a Fender SFDR...I am curious about the Direct Drive mentioned earlier in the thread and the Burn Unit...
Thanks,
GFM
I have both of the pedals you mentioned, plus the Tone Pump.Quote:
Originally posted by GuitarsfromMars
I have recently discovered the Barber products...What can anyone tell me about them and how they work with a Fender SFDR...I am curious about the Direct Drive mentioned earlier in the thread and the Burn Unit...
Thanks,
GFM
The Direct Drive offers the flavor of many amps from classic Marshall to vintage Tweed overdrive to modern California. Pull the tone knob (push/pull) for saturation and you will get the closest thing a pedal has ever offerred to the Robben Ford tone. It also does the best Tube Screamer ever, while keeping a full, tight bass. Turned back, it is sparkly clean, cranked is Voodoo Child mayhem. This is the only pedal I have owned that acted like an amp - it's dynamic presentation is unparalleled. It cleans up when you roll back the guitar volume and is clearer, more articulate, and less noisy than other pedals. It has the "truest" bypass of anything I've played.
Compared to the Burn Unit, the DD is not as dark or grainy - or as compressed. Although the Nashville players have discovered the BU for their Teles (I have too), I think the BU does it's best work w/ humbuckers. The Tone Pump, which is less compressed than the BU and closer to a OD/Boost pedal, works best with single coils - it loves Strats through Fender amps. The DD excels with any guitar/pup/amp combination.
All of the Barber pedals work well with Fender amps (I own several Fender amps), but the DD is the cat's ass. The BU and the TP make your sound more of what it already is (the TP more so than the BU) - Fenders amps sound more Fendery and Strats sound more Stratty. With the DD, you can turn your clean Fender SFDR into a classic Marshall, an OD'd Tweed, a Dumble....and back into a SFDR. It's like a box of amps! I think it is the superior OD pedal on the market.
P.S. One of the moderators of the McInturff forum has posted a review of the DD in the Product Review section of the TCM Forum.
I have a Fulldrive 2 and a Voodoolabs Overdrive. Both are great, IMO. Both are true bypass, too. The VL seems to add a wallop of bass (along with gain and/or volume) when you turn it on, whereas the FD2 seems to slightly thin out the tone. This is going into an already driven tube head, not as the only source of OD/dist.
LOH
I've owned two Fulldrive II's and never should have bought the second one. They are hugely popular, but I can't get a decent sound out of mine in a concert volume situation. I guess it just ain't for me.
My fav. is the Menatone Blue Collar, so far.
you can check http://www.harmony-central.com/Effec..._Drive-01.html
cheers,
bali
Quote:
Originally posted by 3rdStone
I have both of the pedals you mentioned, plus the Tone Pump.
The Direct Drive offers the flavor of many amps from classic Marshall to vintage Tweed overdrive to modern California. Pull the tone knob (push/pull) for saturation and you will get the closest thing a pedal has ever offerred to the Robben Ford tone. It also does the best Tube Screamer ever, while keeping a full, tight bass. Turned back, it is sparkly clean, cranked is Voodoo Child mayhem. This is the only pedal I have owned that acted like an amp - it's dynamic presentation is unparalleled. It cleans up when you roll back the guitar volume and is clearer, more articulate, and less noisy than other pedals. It has the "truest" bypass of anything I've played.
Compared to the Burn Unit, the DD is not as dark or grainy - or as compressed. Although the Nashville players have discovered the BU for their Teles (I have too), I think the BU does it's best work w/ humbuckers. The Tone Pump, which is less compressed than the BU and closer to a OD/Boost pedal, works best with single coils - it loves Strats through Fender amps. The DD excels with any guitar/pup/amp combination.
All of the Barber pedals work well with Fender amps (I own several Fender amps), but the DD is the cat's ass. The BU and the TP make your sound more of what it already is (the TP more so than the BU) - Fenders amps sound more Fendery and Strats sound more Stratty. With the DD, you can turn your clean Fender SFDR into a classic Marshall, an OD'd Tweed, a Dumble....and back into a SFDR. It's like a box of amps! I think it is the superior OD pedal on the market.
P.S. One of the moderators of the McInturff forum has posted a review of the DD in the Product Review section of the TCM Forum.
I second the John Landgraff Dynamic Overdrive.
Bill Webb makes a pedal called the Textosterone. It is a killer. Germanium based distortion/gain pedal. Big, fat, and throaty.
Webb?
Were do find these Textosterone pedals?.I'm getting into these germanium OD's.. My current faves are G.S.Wyllie Overtron and Bob McBroom's Mcfuzz pedals.. Fat city......... Chuck
Anybody tried the Blackstone? It sounds good on their website.
Tim C.
I need to look into that Textosterone.
My fave for a long time now is the Crowther Hotcake. Goes well with my Vox and Marshall
Man, I've gone through a lot of OD pedals: Marshall BB, Dano Daddy O, Boss SD-1, Sparkle Drive, Route 66, Ibanez, Tech21.
The Marshall wasn't bad, and I could have probably ended my search there...but what fun would that have been? :)
The Dano sounded very good for the money, but was a bit too noisey.
The Sparkle Drive was interesting, but I wasn't ever quite satisfied with it.
The Route 66 was quite good, also...but I had to keep searchin'.
The Tech21 SansAmp has a wide range, but sounded to artifical to my ears.
After all that, I wound up with a Boss BD-2 and an Ibanez TS-7 that both got the Keeley Mods. The mods made both pedals much more useful. I use the TS-7 and BD-2 together, one on each side of my wah pedal. Currently, I have the TS-7 in front of the wah. I haven't decided which pedal I want in the front position, yet, but it will probably be the BD-2.
The BD-2 does the clean boost thing best, while the TS-7 is better for OD to distortion sounds.
With the right settings using these two pedals can get anything from just a warmed up OD tone, woman tone (think Faith Hill in the kitchen), to heavily saturated distortion.
Would they work for you? Depends. Do you like Faith Hill? ;^)
I like my Maxon OD pedal, and my boss SD-1. Also my boss Blues Driver works pretty well, and for getting a little boost out of my amp i use my Marshall Blues Breaker.
Matchless 'ot Box
The heart of my rig.
Sounds great when being smacked in da face with a FDII in comp cut mode. (flat mids.)
Regards,
Brian
20 years later, I am still in love with the TS-9 that I bought used for $30. For Christmas, I got a Marshall BB-2 and I like that a lot too. Although i don't use it, I have a Vintage Rat that smokes with a Strat through a JC-120. I wish I had tried that when I had a Twin....
I've now got a Maxon OD-808 with true bypass switch,An Analogman TS-9/808 brown mod (both have the rare Malaysian op amp)and my latest purchase is a HOTCAKE----"WOW" what a beast.My TS-808's can now retire gracefully.
All bases are covered
Watto
My vote...definately the Fulltone FD-2...the best....
Another vote for the FD2, especially the newer version with the flat-mids/ full mids/ comp cut toggle switch. I had an orange FD2, and the later blue FM version. Now I have it all in one pedal. The FD2 really shines when the amp itself is pushed a bit.
Not one BOSS pedal???? YNUK YNUK YNUK....
Has anyone tried the Banzai effects, especially the Rising Sun?
I have the new fulldrive with the 3 way swich. I love it. I can get all the sounds that I get out of my white knobed one with flat mids, plus the full mid tone. Also, I prefer the swich to the push pull pot.
My favorite is a $20 Ibanez TS-5, that I modded to TS808 specs, with a Texas Intruments 4558P, I also did the sweeter distortion mod by swapping out one of the clipping diodes with a 1N4001 from the Shack. I also put in switchable output (I think) caps, from the stock 0.47uF, to 0.68uF, to 0.1uF. Adds bass to the signal. It helps to eliminate the mid range hump, when I so desire.
My second favorite is a reissue Fuzz Face that I modded with some vintage Germanium AC188 Transistors. It took some tweaking with Germanium diodes and resistor values, but I've got it giving me a great Brian May Trebleboosted Vox tone when paired with my SF Champ (class A combined with Germanium might be the reason), although, I'm thinking about adding a varaible capacitance knob, to alter it's bass response.
Last but not least is my Orman Mini Booster (form the AMZ site, you can also see the schem at www.generalguitargadgets.com). It cost me $10 to make, about 1 hour, and a burnt finger. I used weaker MPF102's from the Shack as my JFETs, so it doesn't product any distortion, just a nice clean boost.
Original Ibanez TS-808!!!
Keeley Modded Boss Blues Driver 2 with Phat Switch. Very transparent, and when you dime out the gain it almost sounds like a fuzz, only much more focused. Great Jimmy Page tones from Zep I and II. Not as middy as my Keeley modded TS9, which is also a great OD.
Right now I'm totally digging the sound of my Ibanez TS-10 (modded to TS-808 specs by Analogman.)
http://www.analogman.com/
This thing sounds so good it's ridiculous.
(I only wish I had received it in time to use on my latest CD!)
In any event, Analog Mike is the man!
:cool:
80's Roger Mayer AXIS.
I just discovered this www.miaudio.com It's unbelievable,As an owner of original TS 808's,TS-9's ,Hotcakes original proco rat etc etc.It's not very often that a pedal impresses me as much as this one did.
It's now all I use
Watto
I have two DOD pre-amp/overdrive 250's one from the '70's, and the other from the '80's.
I love them both.
The '80's has more low end out of the two.
probably one of the absolute best overdriven tones i ever got in my life out of my bassmans happens when i plug my guitar into my sans amp tech 21 preamp pedal i really cant call it a distortion pedal even though it has a footswitch on it its this little black box with 8 or 10 dip switches you flip up or down to acheive your favorite amplifier gain tones mine approximates a mesa and a marshall ac dc / van halen brown sound very competently i love it i used to hide it in my guitar rack and it was my rhythm crunch for many many years
i bought mine new in 1998 for $159 dollars and i dont ever regret this tool
i dont use it anymore but if i need to kick ass tone wise it definitely does its job and more
these tech 21 pedals come with a power plug wall wart and like i said it works with any amplifier if you want a change of tone or kick
the late unique KURT COBAINEused the one like i own for alot of his recordings and it was a integral part of his live rig he always used one to get his grunge sound this pedal was plugged into his mesa boogie pre amp that was set for his clean tone this pedal (tech 21) was his over driven *sound* that was his sound plus he drove his marshall cabinets with crest power amps cranked the tech 21 was his gain over the top tone (that became THE GRUNGE TONE )of that time
This thread had been around for a while and my rig has evolved. I still like my original TS-9 that I've had forever when I use my Strats, but when I use my Les Pauls, I use my Marshall Bluesbreaker II on boost mode. For me, I set up my dirty and clean sounds on the amps (Mine are all channel switchers), and then hit the pedal for feedback and/or solos.
If you haven't tried a Banzai Cold Fusion, you need to!
I've got two out of four ODs that are my favs: early Analogman modded TS-9 (just the chip and some beefed up soldering) that I'll use with any of my guitars and amps, and a Don Butler modded Vox Valvetone that I use mostly with the Teles and RI Bassman.
I JUST BOUGHT A DAN ELECTRO DISTORTION PEDAL I THINK ITS A BLENDER OR SOMETHIN LIKE THAT I KNO IT DOES HAVE SOME STUPID ERONEOUS NAME LOL
IT WAS CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT BUT IT SOUNDED SORTA USEFUL SO I BOUT ONE TO FART AROUND WITH ITS GOOD FOR BLUES RHYTHYMS IF YOURE JAMMIN WITH FRIENDS
I LOVE MY MARSHALL SHREDMASTERS THE ORIGINALS (BLACK ONES)
I HAVE ONE BUT I ACCIDENTLY RAN OVER MY GIG BAG AND SQUASHED IT SO I NEED TO REPLACE ALL THE POTENTIOMETERS LMAO MINE IS THE OLD ONE FROM 92 ITS ALSO AUTOGRAPHED BY JIM MARSHALL I AM PISSED OFF I RAN IT OVER BUT I DONT KNO WHERE TO BUY THE SMALL REPLACEMENT POTENTIOMETERS
SORRY I FORGOT MY CAPS BUTTON AGAIN