What chords are these?

I substitute these chords in place of the II & V chords. In the key of D, for instance:
E------------------------
B---3---SLIDE TO--2---
G---4---SLIDE TO--3--
D---5----------------5--
A------------------------
E---5----------------5--

What are their names?

First one might be called a G6sus2, second one sounds weird to me, are you sure that's the fingering?

I only had time to look at the first chord.

In relation to D, it is somewhat androdginous as the chord consists of (D, root), (B,6), (G,4), (A,5) I might call it a D6sus4

In relation to the II chord, or Em, you have (D,b7), (C,b3), (B,5), (A,4). Depending on the context, you could call it Em7sus4

"This One", slide to "That One"

7, that's a fairly common jazz ii/V sub, which is basically just Em7 to A7b9, the only difference being you keep the A in the bass of the Em7.

It's a pretty hip change--I think you'd find the first person to really put that to use in recordings would be Django. Even more so, if it was the key of D-minor instead of D-major, if you use that same fingering except also use the Bb in the first chord, so that the only thing that moves is the D down to C# (on the B string), you'd have Em7b5/A to A7b9, a really juicy turnaround going to a Dm7 chord.

OK, where's a guitar when you need one :-)

Keep this thread floating 'till saturday ;-)

Looks to me like
G add9 (1,3,5 +9)
Then Gmb5 add9 (1,b3,5 +9)

Yes, but he said substituting for the ii/V in D, so the qualities would have to relate to that key.

The first one is a A7(sus4) or G/A. The second one is A7(b9).

Did I say II? Sorry, I meant ii:bh

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Originally Posted by pc

7, that's a fairly common jazz ii/V sub, which is basically just Em7 to A7b9, the only difference being you keep the A in the bass of the Em7.

It's a pretty hip change--I think you'd find the first person to really put that to use in recordings would be Django. Even more so, if it was the key of D-minor instead of D-major, if you use that same fingering except also use the Bb in the first chord, so that the only thing that moves is the D down to C# (on the B string), you'd have Em7b5/A to A7b9, a really juicy turnaround going to a Dm7 chord.

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Also, to get the II, V7 sound you only have to move the D down to C#. (Keeping the B natural)

Ah, the ii-V change. The jazz equivalent of the pentantonic scale for blues. A classic that never goes out of style.

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Originally Posted by Wilko

Looks to me like
G add9 (1,3,5 +9)
Then Gmb5 add9 (1,b3,5 +9)

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Wilko, to call a chord a 9th chord, you'd need to have a 7 in there, wrong?

what key are we in?

A G B D

and

A G Bb (A#) Db (C#) unless the 'G' is actually an F double sharp

how do you want to spell it? :ahem

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Originally Posted by sliding-tom

Wilko, to call a chord a 9th chord, you'd need to have a 7 in there, wrong?

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you could always call it an "add 9" and that would get away with the need to have a 7 in it.

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Originally Posted by sliding-tom

Wilko, to call a chord a 9th chord, you'd need to have a 7 in there, wrong?

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I called it an add 9, then spelled it 1,3,5 and used a plus sign for the 9.

Yes, if I had called it a 9th chord, the 7th would need to be there.

Using a plus (+) sign usually refers to a raised or sharped note, better to just write it as add 9. For example G7+9, the 9th would be raised a half-step to A#.

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Originally Posted by chuckocaster

what key are we in?

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D as in dumbass :bonk :lol

I never called them 9th chords. I called them add 9, then listed the notes in parentheses.
My error was using a plus sign in the note list in parentheses, which usually denotes a sharp (augmented) note.

Other methods would be to spell the chord 1, 2, 3, 5 (being that there is no 7th)

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Originally Posted by 71818

D as in dumbass :bonk :lol

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:D

okay, then what is the next chord? that's what will tell you how to name these chords.

The next chord is
D

Chucko, you really oughta read the whole thread first!!! :lol

We kinda already answered the question. Twice. :D

Something like this?

http://members.canonphotogroup.com/j...iVI%20copy.jpg

Right on Jam. :yay

Thanks pc,

You mentioned the minor variant so I put this together:

http://members.canonphotogroup.com/j...iiVI%20min.jpg

never mind.

Now, tell me, if I'm wrong: if you add an E to a D chord, wouldn't that be a sus2? Since there is no 7th, how could that be a 9th? That's the way I learned
to name chords. Also a sharp 9 would be written as #9 (wrong?)

Sharp 9 is written as #9, yes. However, it can also be written as (+9) as long as you have it in the parenthesis like that. G+9 would imply a G augmented chord with a natural 9. G7(+9) indicates a G7 chord with an added sharp 9.

In general, your nomenclature is correct. If there is no 7th degree specified, adding an E to a D chord would be a sus2, but sometimes that is confused by the designation D2. General acceptance has D2 spelled as D-E-A, and Dsus2 spelled as D-E-F#-A, but not as general as you'd hope, since I see those two done the opposite way as well.

That doesn't apply to the chords in question here though, since a 7th degree is clearly specified in addition to the 9th degree.