i have a SS Bronco tweed amp about 12x12x7"..it has a 10" spkr in it.
1) can i change the spkr to a 12"?
2) if i get a *great* speaker to put in it, will the sound *vastly* improve, or will the sound improvement be negligible?
3) same Q as to installing a 12" spkr in stead of an 8" spkr?
thanx
Imanidiot.
eminence says 12.2" Outside Diameter on a cannabis rex 12"
got a shoe horn? grease? big ass hammer?
http://www.eminence.com/pdf/cannabisrex.pdf
do I look like I know what I'm doing?
so will the sound diff be like day-and-night?
i also just picked a little tweed epiphone SS @ maybe 14" sq
......havent even plugged it in yet
maybe get a 12 in there
so, assuming i have a big-ass-hammer, will the sound be *that much* better?
Imanidiot.
I haven't heard a Fender solid state amp yet, whose sound could not be vastly improved with the liberal use of a big-ass hammer.Originally Posted by frank thomson
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
a more efficient speaker will cause it to be louder.
If the speaker is 'voiced' the way you like, it will - in all likleyhood- sound better as well.
Unfortunatly, you don't know until you try or know someone who has and try thiers...
-Mr. redundantcy
do I look like I know what I'm doing?
Amen to that!
I'm thinking if you decide to put a 12" speaker in a cabinet designed for a smaller speaker, you'd need to make sure the cabinet has enough spare room not just for the new speaker's larger diameter, but also for its greater depth. You wouldn't want to cut a bigger hole for the bigger speaker, then find out the driver is going to stick out the back of the amp.
You probably already thought of that, but I thought I'd toss it out there.
Some tweed pros had that "feature."
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
I think the box size would radically affect this.
My Fezzter has a 10" speaker in it, but it sounds more open and less "boxy" than my Blues Jr. did... probably mostly because Fezz chose a good speaker for the amp, but partly because the cabinet it's in is, like, 18" square.
A 12" speaker jammed into a box that just barely holds it, I think, would tend to sound as crowded as it would appear.
I'm thinking of having a cabinet made for a single 12" as a companion to the Fezzter, and when I checked out Weber's boxes (so it would match, natch), I decided they are too small... when I do it, I'll order order one of their 15" (18" x 18") boxes with the baffle cut for a single 12". A Fezzter 'Prince G' mini-stack!
Because we don't envy you enough already.
Yep, Jim's a member of the NTBlues rub it in club.Because we don't envy you enough already.
got it.
maybe i'll just consider putting in a very warm, soft spkr
...maybe that'll counteract the brittle sound of the SS?
would *that* be a better idea?
"I haven't heard a Fender solid state amp yet, whose sound could not be vastly improved with the liberal use of a big-ass hammer."
FUNNY.
Imanidiot.
That could be a band name.
"Well, I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
Elvis Costello
Frank, It couldn't hurt. Now you gotta figure out wit or witout dope on the speaker.
Double post....
It would be gilding the lily to make it a heavy metal band, wouldn't it?
You could try putting a tube OD pedal in front of it.
http://www.rivercityrockets.com/DynamicDuos/9.jpg
It might sound cool.
But if you don't really LIKE how that sounds, you'd at least have the psychological advantage of knowing a vacuum tube is involved.
"Well, I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
Elvis Costello
I was picturing something like C&C Music Factory.
"Well, I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
Elvis Costello
ok
then i guess my next question would be;
which speaker mfg would you suggest that could warm-up the sound of the stock SS amp?
i appreciate all you're replies so far.
Imanidiot.
fezz parka and Kap'n to the red courtesy phone... paging Mr. fezz parka... paging captain Kap'n... to the red phone, please....
Seriously?
I really might start with something like an EQ pedal, for some kinda' drastic tone shaping, rather than a speaker that might cost about what the amp's worth.
I've actually used the Tube King between my Bluesbird or Strat and a Peavey keyboard amp with pretty nice results.
It wasn't a rocking out type of application, but it sure warmed up and smoothed out the sound.
It's just something I had around.
"Well, I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
Elvis Costello
hmmm....
sounds like i'm gonna consider 'plan B'...which, if i were brighter, should have been 'plan A'...lol
i want a relatively light weight tube amp w/ a 12" spkr, and prob custom covered in something stupid....i like LOUD....and i like the 12" pushing some air...and if it breaks-up early enough, then no boxes at all...but i want a great clean sound too at higher volumes.
so...do i just want everything, or what?
Imanidiot.
Think a bronco has a 8 " speaker
Old thread alert.....
Several guitars in different colors
Things to make them fuzzy
Things to make them louder
orange picks
Wait until you see what Jim and I are creating...Yep, Jim's a member of the NTBlues rub it in club.
...well not like we're doing it together, but he's directly/indirectly involved.
Kinda...is.
"...pray do not imagine that those who make the noise are the only inhabitants of the field;
that, of course, they are many in number; or that, after all, they are other than the little,
shriveled, meagre, hopping, though loud and troublesome, insects of the hour."
-Edmund Burke
Frank -
you could ........if so inclined.......
purchase an Epiphone Valve junior Cabinet cheaply, install a rally good speaker that would work with mulitple amps, and posess a well made extension cabinet that is a great tool in the box......
I run mine as an extension with the HRDx, with a couple of other amps that friends use, and have been dying to try it with a Pro Jr.
i reloaded it with a Warehouseguitarspeakers.com Veteran when they were $29 Man...........I wish I had bought a few of them!
Of course, ......how did you say that about your opinion possibly changing at any time without notice.???
Edited.......to add......
I AM A DUMBASS>>>>>>> Did not heed the Kap'ns alert!
Last edited by FrankJohnson; 03-26-2008 at 06:53 PM.
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