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    What strats have the most sustain???

    Are there any particular factors which help a strat out in the sustain department, any particular models???

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    Every Strat I have ever owned has been a tremelo model. The new Robert Cray Strat I just got 3 months ago is a hardtail and it has alot more bottom end and sustain than any of the tremelo models I have owned.

    I dont really know if its all the hardtail design doing it but it really has a different more beefy sound not thin like most of the other Strats I have owned.

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    You have to find a guitar that "rings" acoustically.
    I have many Strats and some sustain better than others.
    I cant attribute this to body/neck woods as they are all different.

    As far as the Hardtail theory goes, I will buy that.
    Theres more transfering of tone with a solid tail piece?

    I will say that theres a difference in tone between a hard tail and a trem model as the spring cavity on a trem model lends to the "woody" Strat tone as the springs create a "reverb" effect.

    Just put your ear up to any unplugged trem equipped Strat and you will hear what I'm refering to.

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    I've got both hardtail and tremolo equipped strats and the hardtail definately has better sustain.

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    There's no improving on a hardtail for sustain.

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    Originally posted by Electron
    There's no improving on a hardtail for sustain.
    Unfortunately you lose some of the trademark Strat sound

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    True that.

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    First off, all "identical" guitars are NOT created equal due to woods, const tolorances etc etc. That's probably a good thing.....?

    I have a '97 Am Std Strat and have 'blocked' the trem in the # bending side. No problem with broken strings/tuning and I can still do the dives. I've added a fourth spring to maintain the pressure on the trem tab and block. I've also added a Tusk (bone or ivory are good too but overkill on an axe other than a good acoustic IMHO) nut which may help some too.

    The 'blocked' trem and the nut do add more contact area/better sonic materials and sonic transfer btwn the strings and the body and/or neck. This coupled with a solid body to neck interface will increase sustain providing the woods like it.

    This guitar sustains damn near as well as my PRSi hardtails, esp with the Kinman AVn-Blues pups.

    She's shares my #1 axe choice with a PRS Hollowbody II. Even in the sustain department!

    Hammer on.......Blair

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    i agree with having to play numerous guitars to find a good one. but i do it unplugged and in a quiet room. once you find a good one, a trick i like to do is pull the neck and check the holes in the body. the screws should pass thru easily without hang ups. then i reinstall the neck and tighten it like you would a car tire. then i let it sit for a couple hours and check the tension. and i also check the bridge screws. granted these little things do add a whole lot, but compounded, it does add up.
    i have several trem strats, and a single hardtail. i do notice a little bit of a difference between the two styles. but if you have a good guitar and a good set up, the difference is very minimal. my blue strat can go head to head sustain wise with my buddy's paul. but the trem does make the strat a little zingier. just my thoughts, take it for what it's worth.
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    Originally posted by Marcondo
    Every Strat I have ever owned has been a tremelo model. The new Robert Cray Strat I just got 3 months ago is a hardtail and it has alot more bottom end and sustain than any of the tremelo models I have owned.

    I dont really know if its all the hardtail design doing it but it really has a different more beefy sound not thin like most of the other Strats I have owned.
    Ditto.

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    Originally posted by Marcondo
    Every Strat I have ever owned has been a tremelo model. The new Robert Cray Strat I just got 3 months ago is a hardtail and it has alot more bottom end and sustain than any of the tremelo models I have owned.

    I dont really know if its all the hardtail design doing it but it really has a different more beefy sound not thin like most of the other Strats I have owned.
    The funny thing about it is that Robert Cray never really plays with very much sustain at all. When I saw him live, I was actually a bit aggravated by how dull and quitting his sound quality was.

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    dunno bout the hardtail, but a Callaham trem block and assembly makes all the difference to my ears!

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    I just don't think sustain when I think strats. As an ex-LP player, I was looking for something with a little less sustain. I do have an ash parts-o-caster with the Callham block that does sustain longer than my stock MIA strat. I would definetly go with a hardtail, then make sure the strat had a nice, snug neck pocket.:nelson
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