Hendrix using the NORMAL channel...

I was watching the Hendrix at Berkeley dvd the other day, and there was a close up shot showing his rig, showing him plugged into the NORMAL channel of his head, daisychained to the normal side of the second head!

God damn- I wish I'd seen that thirty years ago- I've been wrestling with the tone of my strat through the bright channel in Marshalls since 1970!

so THAT'S how he did it!

(Oh, and maybe a bit of voodoo...)

-Pete

DUDE ITS FUN BUT CAN BE NOISY DAISYCHAININ HENDRIX DID IT

I DO IT ALOT BUT HONESTLY NOT BECAUSE OF HIM I USE A NOISE GATE BETWEEN THE 2 -3 AMPS DAISYCHAINED OK THERES MY SECRET
YOU CAN GET ALOT OF HEADROOM AND INTERESTING TONES OUT OF THIS CONFIGURATION BUT HENDRIX DIDNT INSPIRE ME TO DO SO \I NEEDED TO USE ALL MY HEADS FOR DIFFERENT TONES PLUS I USE A SPLITTER BOX INBETWEEN THEM ALL

I USE A NOISE GATE TO KEEP IT ALOT QUITER YEA MY TRIK AND JUST ENUF TO OPEN UP STHE GATE SO THE OTHERS AMPS VOLUME UP TO ON MODE .......TRY IT SOMETIME
NOW I AM SPILLIN MY SECRETS LMAO BRO ITS OK


DID YOU EVA DOUBLE JACK A FENDER OR OLD MARSHALL HEAD INPUT JACKS ITS FUN AND VERY TONAL NORMAL TO BASS CHANNELS LMAO IT WORKS ALSO I DO THIS ALOT ACTUALLY ALL THE TIME




I LIKE IT I DO IT SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY ON MY OL BASSMAN 50 WATT HEADS


DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

DAISY CHAININ I USE RELIGOUSLY 99% TIME ON BIG GIGS
ALSO A OLD REALLY GOOD ERNIEBALL VOLUME PEDAL TO SWELL THE WETTER AMP IN FOR MY STYLE I PLAY
I GOT A DRY AMP AND A WET AMP HEADS

THE OLD NOISE GATE ;
IT ALSO KEEPS IT QUTER IN THE BARS BETWEEN SONG CHANGES
TRUST ME IF USED RIGHT

IT WORKS FOR ME

GOOD LUCK
JUST SOME IDEAS


BLUELOU

I've seen shots where he's had the bright channels hooked up too.

he probably did a fair share of experimenting ;)

YOU CAN DAISYCHAIN THE NORMAL CHNL OF ONER HEAD INTO THE BASS SIDE OF ANOTHER HEAD AND THEN GO VISA VERSA BACK TO A NORMAL CHANNEL

I LIKE THIS APPROACH BECAUSE THE BASS IS MORE CONCENTRATED IN THE MIDDLE IF YOU PLAY 2-3 AMPS USUALLY BASSMANS OR MARSHALLS LIKE I DO

ITS A WORKABLE IDEA
I USE A HIGH GAIN AMP FIRST FOR MY DIRT MAIN SIGNAL AND SIMPLE FULL REVERBS THA AMP IS MY #1 AMP THEN I PLUG MY GTR INTO IT
THEN I SEND THE SIGNAL TO A VOLUME PEDAL THEN THE CLEAN CHANNEL (NORMAL) HEAD \AMPLIFIER

IN ANOTHER CABINET BUT I SPLIT THE SIGNAL BY USIN A VOLUME PEDAL OR YOU CAN USE A GOOD PAN PEDAL ITS REALLY KOOL I AM IN SMALL BANDS SO I NEED TO FILL THE GAPS ALOT MORE THAN MOST
MY BANDS HAVE ONLY 3 MAIN PLAYERS 3 OF US ALOT OF TIMES MUSICALLY.......I LIKE IT THIS WAY



YOU COULD ADD REVERBS AND CHORUS /DELAY TO THE CLEAN AMP NORMALCHANNEL AND PLUG YOUR VOLUME OR PAN PEDAL OUTPUT TO THE INPUT OF YOUR EFX AND SIMPLY SWELL IN THE CLEAN NORMAL CHANNELED AMP EFX/DELAYS/CHORUSES/ ETC ...
AFTER OR BEFORE I LIKE THE MAIN VOL OR PAN PEDAL AFTER
AFTER
I DO THIS ALOT ITS WET / DRY SOUND I GET
THIS WAY AND MY SOUND IS MORE DIVERSE AND FULLER LIKE THE DREGS FULLNESS



TO ALL MY HEADS
I ADDED A LINE OUT I MADE UP LONG AGO ITS KILLER ANS FUN AS LONG S TYOU GOT A GOOD SPKR LINE OUT JACK ....

TO MY MAIN DIRT AMP THE LINE OUTPUT GOES TO SLAVE TO WHEREEVER I CAN GIVE YOU MY SIMPLE LINE OUT SCHEMATIC

IT WORKS DOESNT ALTER YOUR TONE AT ALL
THEN YOU GET A WALLL OF SOUND ITS A IDEA THA I USE RELIGOUSLY

LEMME KNO
GOOD LUCK



P'S STEVE MORSE DOES THIS SAME REALLY
ALSO BUT I ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOD MY AMPS TO MAKE MY LINE OUT MYSELF


ITS VERY USEFUL

Man, gimme a break!! Where do you guys play that you can daisy chain Marshall together?? I get yelled at for turning my Super up past 4!!! you dudes must be heavy hitters, or deaf!!

CT.

Yeah, man, It's gotten crazy around where I live- I usually get yelled at by the soundman 'cause my Deluxe is too loud!
And I used to use two 100 watt full stacks in the early 70's...
(What's that ringing I hear?...)

-Pete

Say what??

CT.:D

I just watched that Jimi Plays Berkeley plus the Monterey DVD this holiday weekend.

Also got me to thinking how obscenely loud those Marshall stacks must have been and how there's little chance many clubs today would even allow someone to play that loud. Then again those amps had to be that loud to get the sounds that Jimi was getting.

According to the Monterey narrative Hendrix was the only one to bring his own amps. All the other bands used rented amps apparently. I noticed a second logo on Jimi's Marshall cabs in the upper left corner similar to Fender's logo. Any idea what it is?

That "second logo" is "100"-
For a few years in the late 60's Marshall put those 100's on their cabs equipped with the heavier g12H celestions, as opposed to the g12M's also in use.

Yeah, it's hard to do Hendrix right without a screamin' Marshall!

-Pete

When Jimi was playing, they didn't have sound re-enforcement for guitar amps like they have today. Hell, you can play a stadium with a Blues Jr if it's mic'd and cranked through the PA. Back then, they needed the stacks of Marshalls to be heard in large concert halls, or outdoors. He didn't use the same rig in small clubs. He typically used a single stack for smaller venues. In the early days, he also played with a Fender Twin.

My origional question wan`t answered tho,,,where do you guys play, or are you heavy hitters, and play arenas?? Seriously...:(

CT.

DUDE HEY THERE IS FUN IN THE MINDS OF CREATIVITY

HENDRIX LIKED THA SOUND

IF I USE MY SMALL OLD RACK
I DAISY CHAIN THE 2 AMPS ALL THE TIME IN THE NORMAL CHANNELS

I USE 1 VOLUME PEDAL TO PULL MY WET SIGNALS IN AND OUT I LIKE LOTS OF EXPRESSION IN AMPS


I DON KNO I PLAY LOTS OF GIGS STEADY AND I CAN FIT MY 1/2 STACK AND MY OTHER 1/2 STACK THE WET AMP ON THE STAGE
I PLAY WITH VOLUME KNOBS ETC
ITS ALL IN THE HANDS REALLY AND UP TO THE PLAYER

I FULLYCRANK
ONE OF MY HEADS THRU A 81 POWER SOAK TO REALLY SATURATE AND NOT BLOW THE ROOFS OFF THE CLUBS
I KEEP A KOOL STAGE VOLUME CONSIDERIN I USE BIG SHIT

EVER TRY USIN VOLUME PEDAL IN BETWEEN AMPS? OR PAN PEDALS? I DO
ITS WONDERFUL TONE ALSO IT ADDS ALOT MORE DIVERSIFIED SOUND FOR ME

IT DONT GET TOO LOUD BUT HEY CLUB OWNERS DONT MIND AS LONG AS THE CHIKS ARE DANCIN AND THE BARS HOPPIN

GOTTA KEEP THE FLOOR PACKED I LOVE MY 2 1/2 STACKS
I DONT PLAY LOUD BUT DIFFERENT COLORS OF SOUNDS IS MY APPROACH********************COLOR*****

I LOVE MY AMPS -SPKRS
AIR AS OPPOSED TO JUST LISTENIN TO MONITORS AND THE PA VOLUME

I ONLY SET MY VOLUME A TAD LOUDER THAN MY DRUMMERS MAX KICK VOLUME IS THERE IS MY APPROACH

ONE AMP IS FULLY GAINED
WITH A TOUCH OF REVERB THE OTHER HEAD IS SWELLED IN/ OUT VIA A OLD VOLUME PEDAL I USE TO PAN IN AND OUT ECHO AND CHORUS ETC******JUST FOR COLOR

I PLUG DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF AMPS NOT INTO TONS OF EFX ON FLOORS
MY GUITAR CORD GOES TO A OL WHA PEDAL AND MY SIGNAL RUNS DIRECT INTO ,

MY #1 DRY CRUNCH HEAD THEN ITS

DAISYCHAINED INTO A VOLUMEPEDALTHATS
FEEDIN MY #2 HEAD NORMAL CHANNEL
EFFECTS LOOP I
ADDED TO IT

ALL MY EFX ARE CONTROLLED BY A LITTLE HOMEMADE SWITCHING SYSTEM I MADE LONG AGO LOOKS LIKE A MINATURE BRADSHAW SWITCHER BUT ITS LIGHTER

WITH ONLY 1 CORD
I CAN CONTROL MY SMALL RACK EFX ITS OLD GEAR OLD LEXICON LXP5 AND VERY OL KORG DDL2000 AND A LECICON I USE FOR CHORUS

PLUGS INTO MY SINGLE CORDED RACK SIGNAL GOES IN TO A
SIMPLE
BUILT IN EFX LOOP I ADDED TO ONE OF MY AMPS
THAS MY WET HEAD

BUT THE ANALOG EFX ARE OLD AND HARDWIRED IN THE RACK PERMANENTLY

MY RACK GEAR IS ANCIENT LMAO ITS ONLY THERE FOR A FULLER SOUND I DONT NEED THE RACK TO HAVE A WET SOUND

ALL I DO IS PLUG 3 CORDS IN AND IM UP AND RUNNIN
2 FROM THE RACK TO A EFX LOOP AND 1 CORD IN THE FRONT OF MY HEAD
ITS EASIER LIKE THA

VERY EASY SETUP

THERE IS HONESTLY ONLY SOMETIMES 1- 2 CABLES ON MY FLOOR USUALLY THIS WAY AND MY TEARDOWNS ARE EASY

ONLY PEDALS ON FLOOR IS 1 CONTROLLER LOOKS LIKE A LIGHT CONTROLLER
AND THE OL WHA WHA CRYBABY

I JUST USE A DODGE CARAVAN LMAO

I LIKE FULL SOUNDS I CAN CONTROL THE SOUND GUY CAN MIK MY AMPS BUT I CONTROL MY SOUNDS NOT WITH LITTLE STOMPBOXES I MAINLY USE ONLY THE WHA ON THE FLOOR

SOME GIGS I JUST USE THE 2 HEADS AND A VOLUMEPAN PEDAL BETEWEN THEM AND THAS IT .....***A VOX OR A MARSHALL OR A BASSMAN NORMAL CHANNEL INTO THE NORMAL CHANNEL....

I STILL GET A VERY FULL SOUND ON STAGE I LIKE COLORS NOT SOUNDMEN SOUNDS I LIKE THE SOUNDMEN TO GET MY SOUND

I AM IN CONTROL OF MY RIG
NOT THE SOUNDGUY
LMAO ITS OLD FASHIONED BUT IT WORKS

STEVE MORSE DOES THE SAME STUFF VERY SIMILAR SETUP
BUT HE USES TONS OF PAN VOLUME PEDALS FOR HIS SWELLS OF HIS RACK EFFEX

I JUST USE 1 VOL/PAN PEDAL AND A WHA

I DONT EVEN NEED MY RACK MOST OF THE TIME
IF I USE IT ITS ONLY FOR MORE COLORS ITS A BREEZE TO SETUP
ONLY 2 LITTLE CABLES GOIN TO MY EFX LOOP BINGO

AND MAYBE A WHA PEDAL
THAS IT

SINCERELY
BLUELOU
AS LONG AS ONE OF MY AMPS GOTS A GOOD REVERB ALL I NEED IS THE 2 AMPS AND MY PANPEDAL AND CRYBABY

AS YOU CAN TELL I DONT LIKE SOUNDMEN
LMAO SOME BUTCHERR UP YOUR SOUNDS

ILL CONTROL MINE MY WAY IT IS DAISY CHAINED EITHER WAY

SORRY I TYPED IN CAPS I AINT YELLIN I MADE A MISTAKE

ILL SOMETIMES USE A OLD 64 WEAK 50 WATT BASSMAN I MODDED TO SATURATE ALOT OF GAIN LINE OUT THA HEAD IN A OL 2X10 SPKR CELESTION LOADED CAB ITS SMALL CABINET
LINE OUT CORD GOES
TO A VOLUME/PAN
PEDAL INTO A ALLESIS NANOVERB INTO MY TINNY WEENIE PEAVY BANDIT 15 WATTER LOADED WITH A CELESTION
FOR MY WET SOUND

I'LL MIKE THE 2 CABS IN BETWEEN BY L SHAPING THE AMPS ON THE FLOOR THEN I ONLY NEED I MIKE FOR THIS AS I SWELL IN THE REVERBS OR CHORUSES ITS FUN

REAL SIMPLE AND FUN SETUP
ALL I NEED IS MY WHA AND I AM HAVIN FUN AGAIN

...I`m speechless after that!!:(

LMAO
DUDE I PLAY REGULARLY AT LOTS OF SMALL CLUBS OR BIGGER PLACES WHEREEVER I CAN ITS FUN ALLL I KNO IS WHA WORKS FOR ME WE PLAY IN SMALL LOCAL SMOKEY BARS OR BIG OUTSIDE GIGS
WHEREVER THE MONEY IS OR BENEFIT OR FUN I GO


I KNO I SOUND CRAZY '
SORRY FOR MY PAST LONG POST BRO
HONESTLY
IT WAS TOO LONG
I DIDNT KNO I GOT SO INTO IT
BUT I AM HONEST WE GIG ALL THE TIME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE I AM A DIEHARD NO BIGWIG JUST A GUITARPLAYIN DEDICATED NUT

BUT I ALWAYS USE 2 AMPS AT LEAST DAISYCHAINED SOMEHOW ITS FUN

well, i don't have th DVD i have the CD though!! great stuff!!
\
i DO however have the Band of Gypsies DVD!! wow!!

-Matt

SORRY I IMPART MY OLD AGE IDEAS AND EQUIPTMENT I USE I CAN PLAY AS QUIET AS A MOUSE WITH THE WAY I RUN MY 2 RIGS
ITS IN THE MINDS OF THE PLAYER

I AM OLD FASHIONED I LIKE THE HEADROOM THE CLARITY THE WALL OF SOUND IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE LOUD TO BE FULL THE WAY I USE MY RIGS

I FEEL BAD THA I IMPARTED MY SETUPS ON HERE BECAUSE I FEEL OLD AND OUT DATED BUT I STILL PLAY THE SHIT ALL THE TIME I LOVE LIFE


SORRY I AM OLD FASHIONED
THE REASON I LIKE MULTI AMPING (DAISYCHAINING) IS NICE FULL SOUND BEHIND BAND NOT OVERBEARING BUT FULL AND SOLID ESPECIALLY WITH A SMALL BAND 3-4 PIECES

I DONT LIKE SOUNDMEN OR RUNNIN THRU A PA BECAUSE ITS UP TO THE MIXER DUDE THEN HONESTLY WHA COMES OUT OF A AMP YOU USE AND WHA IS COMIN OUT OF A PA IS 2 DIFFERENT ENTITIES......SOMETIMES NOT TO YOUR LIKING


AT LEAST MY WAY I GOT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND MORE CONTROLLABLE FREEDOM ESPECIALLY IF I USE A SMALL HIDDEN MAKIE MIXER BRING TO BUS MY MIC IN THE PA THEN THERE IS NO PROBLEMS

I ALSO JUST LIKE MY OLD SETUPS
SORRY WHEN SOMETHIN WORKS SUCCESSFUL AND RELIABLE FOR 20+YRS WHY CHANGE.?
..... EVEN IF I JUST USE ONE OLD 1/2 STACK MARSHALL BOTTOM I AM HAPPY ITS A FULLER SOUND BEHIND ME AS I PLAY
ITS UP TO THE PLAYER EVERYON HAS REASONS FOR THIS AND THAT
FOR ME MY OLD FASHIONED STYLE IS:
ITS ALL I KNO



I FEEL OLD
SORRY
I BOTHERED ANYONE

SINCERELY '
BLUELOU

Please Bluelou ... Dont use the Shift Button :)

ITS ON THE SHIFT HANDLE IN MY SUV SO I CAN SWITCH BETWEEN 2 AND 4 WHEEL DRIVE

I jump the bright and normal channels of my 50W small top plexi and balance the bass and treble with the two volume controls. Great sound.

THAS WHA I WAS TALKIN ABOUT OLD DAY STYLE TECHNIQUES I DONT HAVE TO BLOW THE ROOF OFF ANY CLUB WITH MY RIG TO GET A REALLY GOOD FULL SOUND ITSS DEFINITELY FULLER WITH MARSHALL OR OLD BASSMAN HEADS IM HAPPY EITHER WAY


THEY THINK IM NUTS IN HERE OR FULL OF SHIT
IF MY BROTHER GETS IN HERE H'ELL VOUCH I USE THE OLD TECHNOLOGY ITS MY SOUNDNEVER CHANGED IN OVER 20 YRS AMPWISE AND GEAR
IM OLD FASHIONED

HEY WHEN SOMETHIN WORKS SO WELL WHY CHANGE AFTER ALL IS ME WHO LUGS THE STUFF FROM GIG TO GIG

I KNO SMALL PRACTICAL AMPS ARE NICE TO LUG AROUND BUT HONESTLY THERE IS A INTERACTION AND UNIQUE SET OF OVERTONES YOU GET STANDING IN FRONT OF A FULL SOUND AS OPPOSED TO THE SOUNDMAN

ALL THE SOUNDGUY HAS TO WORRY ABOUT ON IS PART IS THE VOLUME HE IS USING BECAUSE I DONT COME OUT VERY LOUD I KEEP IT VERY WELL CONTROLLED BUT MY SOUND IS UNIQUE
NO ONE READ MY POST I USE A OLD POWERSOAKS I FRY TRANSFORMERS OCCASIONALLY

HEAVY HITTERS YEA I THINK WE ARE IF YOURE USIN THE MARSHALL LIKE I DO
WERE HEAVY HITTERS

I USE THE POWERSOAKS I GOT IN 81 TO LOAD MY AMPS UP AND ATTENUATE MY VOLUME BUT ITS ALL CONTROLLED BY A VOLUME PEDAL TO ADD TH 2ND AMP IN / OUT BASICALLY

MY SETUP IS LIKE MAYBE 7 MINUTES OR LESS IM UP AND RUNNIN ITS EASY



TREMOLOKING THANX FOR SPEAKIN UP HONESTLY

I AM PUZZLED WHY NO ONE ELSE IN HERE BESIDES US THINKS OLD AMP TECHNIQUES ARE WEIRD

I TELL THEM I LIKE A FULL SOUND BEHIND ME NOT NASAL THIN SMALL SOUND


THANX
SINCERELY
GODBLESS
BLUELOU

BlueLou,

I saw The Steve Miller Band in a rock nightclub in Boston back in 1968 when his band had just shrunk down from 5 piece to 3 piece with the departure of Boz Scaggs. (NOTE: THIS WAS NOTHING LIKE THE AWFUL STEVE MILLER STUFF OF THE MID 70s. Ever heard Goin To Mexico? THAT's what this band was like.)

Miller was playing a Stratocaster through two Marshall stacks. Sure he was loud but his sound was fantastically huge and fat. I can still hear it in my head. I didn't know to look but I'm sure he was running both channels or he wouldn't have had the big bottom end sound.

Remember the track "Quicksilver Girl" on his album Sailor? Wow did that sound great that night.

My Marshall's 8-10 bottom makes a very big sound.

YUP SO TRUE
AND I LOVE THE WALL OF SOUND ITS A HUGE SOUND IM AFTER NOT OVERBEARING BUT FILLING
I GET A GOOD SOUND USIN MY OLD STUFF

IM OLD FASHIONED AT HEART


WHEN YOU GOT A SMALL BAND PLAYIN TOP 40 AND DISCO AND POP SHIT AND BLUES I GOTTA FILL UP THE GAPS
GOOD BAND GREAT MUSICIANS BUT 2 MEMBERS EGOS ARE SO HUGE I DONT LIKE IT I NEEDED A BREAK
THE BAND IS A TODAY POP SHIT BAND ITS WEIRD BUT I LIKE IT
ITS NOT MY CUP OF TEA GREAT TALENT BUT HUGE EGO'S NOT ME IM JUST ME I LIKE LIFE I DONT NEED SELF ABSORBED EGOHEADS RUININ MY NIGHT OUTON THE TOWN

SO I GOT A ODD PHONE CALL
IM FILLLIN IN FOR A MONTH WITH SOME FUN MUSICIANS IN A SIDE PROJECT FOR A MONTH ITS A FILLL IN GIG I LIKE BEIN PUT ON THE SPOT

NOW THIS IS FUN